Determining the value of your tsuba

[lonely panet]

How can we Accurately determine the value of our tsuba??

 

I have imho a very nice unpapered kyo sukashi tsuba. Compared qualities to others i see online. But "as a exercise "  how can i accurately quantify the market value?? 

[Jake6500]

  On 8/14/2024 at 3:14 AM, lonely panet said:

How can we Accurately determine the value of our tsuba??

 

I have imho a very nice unpapered kyo sukashi tsuba. Compared qualities to others i see online. But "as a exercise "  how can i accurately quantify the market value?? 

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This can be pretty difficult as I have discovered 

 

Just to clarify before the thread kicks off, there are many types of value from sentimental, to artistic to monetary which I assume is the one you're referring to for the purpose of the thread.

 

Is that a safe/correct assumption?

[Spartancrest]

  On 8/14/2024 at 3:14 AM, lonely panet said:

how can i accurately quantify the market value?? 

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The only true test would be to put it up for auction - Then withdraw the auction - Dealers do this all the time, however it is not to their credit IMHO

 

What is "true value" anyway? https://www.jauce.com/auction/u1147253154  or the full set of fakes?  https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/315138979734

or get it direct from the manufacturer https://teraasekesku...aijin-tsuba/?lang=en  True "Worth" much less than the postage. [Yes I know these are fakes, it is only an example]

Value like beauty is all in the eye of the beholder I think - Dealers will have a different slant I am sure. 

[lonely panet]

Yes financial value 

[FlorianB]

I wonder why do You want to know?

Are You afraid, You paid too much for Your piece?
Or did You made a bargain and can’t believe it?

 

At least - as it is was said different times here: The value is what someone pays for it.

 

Best, Florian

[lonely panet]

Im trying to get a reality check actually. 

 

I seem to have had a streak of buying imho good items for good prices. 

 

I seem to have developed my eye or my ego

[Jake6500]

  On 8/14/2024 at 5:19 AM, lonely panet said:

Im trying to get a reality check actually. 

 

I seem to have had a streak of buying imho good items for good prices. 

 

I seem to have developed my eye or my ego

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Only 1 way to find out, post those good items and the prices you paid! Let the rest of the forum veterans appaise or evaluate them.

[lonely panet]

Hahahaha well that will make hard to sell here wont it

[Jake6500]

  On 8/14/2024 at 6:36 AM, lonely panet said:

Hahahaha well that will make hard to sell here wont it

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Good point lol 

 

Maybe if there are tsuba you refuse to sell you could use those 

[lonely panet]

about 80mm across and a cute 4mm thick,  very clean a crisp with the exucution of the sukashi. a few spots of iron bones in the rim

[Bugyotsuji]

Would you take $50 for it?

[lonely panet]

hahhaah,  nice try.  a mates got his eye on it before you.  but what what you you say its worth in market value. 

 

i enjoy this type of exercise.  in a ginza shop 1000 USD with papers.  but were not in ginza are we

[PNSSHOGUN]

Yep, fiddy bucks and a firm handshake - thanks mate. 

[Soshin]

  On 8/14/2024 at 10:00 AM, Bugyotsuji said:

Would you take $50 for it?

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My counter bid is $51  $62.99 for the tsuba. 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Soshin
Increased my counter offer the tsuba looks a bit better after examining the photos in more detail. .

[lonely panet]

please delete,  its gone off track to a side show

[Bugyotsuji]

Seriously though, you could run a ‘fake’ auction here and see what people would actually offer for it. Might get more accuracy that way!
 

(If it were for sale, of course, which we know it isn’t.)

 

PS I like the unusual way the dragonflies are done.

[Spartancrest]

Disconcertingly familiar:    

[Bugyotsuji]

Looks like the very same one.

[Lewis B]

  On 8/14/2024 at 11:51 AM, Bugyotsuji said:

Looks like the very It is the same one.

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FIFY

[lonely panet]

thats because it is the same tsuba,  and thats my f/b sales page. 

i prefur to keep buisness seperate from pleasure,  i learn here

[Soshin]

I was only joking with my reply and funny edit, but I do agree with @Bugyotsuji that anything like this has a price really depending on what someone is willing to pay for it at the time you are trying to sell it.  All dealers need buy low and sell high to survive in the Japanese antiques business. If you don't want to clean out your own collection by selling it off. I would move parts of it through a dealer.         

[ROKUJURO]

There might be a good reason to find out the market value of art objects in case a collection is going to be insured.

[Jake6500]

  On 8/15/2024 at 12:31 PM, ROKUJURO said:

There might be a good reason to find out the market value of art objects in case a collection is going to be insured.

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Another great point I didn't think about!