FlorianB Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 Hello all, examining one of my Tsuba I recognized tiny bright spots if light falls on them aslope. Those are scattered irregularly all over the surface. Sorry for the mediocre quality of my shot, but I hope You get the idea. Another picture of the same area in a steeper angel for comparison shows that these spots are no abrasions. Seeing such sprinkles on a blade I would call them „nie“, but on Tsuba, too? I haven’t seen this before. And does it tell something about the material or working process? Best, Florian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0D Posted July 26 Report Share Posted July 26 They look like small tekkotsu to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted July 27 Author Report Share Posted July 27 I understand that tekkotsu appears in the rim area and consists of granular or linear embossed elements. In this case here we have flat dots all over the plate, which are gleaming in angular light, but are black in normal view. Florian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex A Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 I imagine that its just very small areas of the surface that have failed to patina or eroded patina. For reasons such as wear and handling, rust flaking off and what not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanoNox Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 It is likely texture, made before the patination process. The tekkotsu may be possible, but as I recall, even when tsuba are made with recycled materials, they are typically done with the least amount of forging possible, so these here are too small. Nowadays, some craftsmen do patination in two steps: rust once fully, then remove the rust with some acid, and redo it once more. This will increase the roughness of the surface, and may cause some pitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted July 30 Author Report Share Posted July 30 Thank You for the input. It's an older piece, so patination should be old, too. At least it needs further investigation. Florian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartancrest Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 I am being very very silly but this is what I think of when I read "Sprinkles on a Tsuba" [Feel free to delete this post ] 1 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 a YUMMY TSUBA! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 On 7/27/2024 at 9:28 AM, FlorianB said: I understand that tekkotsu appears in the rim area and consists of granular or linear embossed elements.... Usually, TEKKOTSU are not embossed but protruding from the surface. So this could well be granular TEKKOTSU having been polished just by handling the TSUBA. There are still more possibilities for a coarse surface structure. Perhaps photos of the complete TSUBA would help as well as more magnifyed ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted July 30 Author Report Share Posted July 30 Hi Jean, here are some shots of the complete piece, however I haven’t managed to get better close-ups because of the lack of professional photo equipment. But I try again. The above close-ups show the curves at the bottom. Best, Florian 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Florian, I wanted to exclude the possibility that it might have been cast and thus have this specific coarse surface, but it is definitely a very nice classic OWARI TSUBA, I think. So I come back to the TEKKOTSU explanation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 Owari would be my guess, too. However, that’s what the paper says: But folks, PLEASE! Take it as it is. Not that vexed discussion about papers again! DON'T! Florian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geraint Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 Dear Florian. This may not be what you are seeing but have a look at the last line of the description of this tsuba, http://www.nihonto.us/KO KATCHUSHI RM.htm Whatever you are seeing that's a lovely tsuba. All the best. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 Thank You, Geraint. Good hint, this could be the solution. Easy to see, hard to photograph. Couldn’t get the sparkling correctly. But next try. Maybe those will clarify. Florian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorianB Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 There’s another point. If those sprinkles are martensite, the piece must have been hardened. But I learned that hardened Tsuba are brittle and could break so softer iron was in use. What is to make out of it? Florian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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