Butch Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 Help with this Type 98 officers sword which comes with a Sami covered brown sayer and with a Major to Colonel rank Tassle and also a Mon attached to the handle .. Help would be greatly appreciated who finding who the maker is ? Many thanks Gareth Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 That's a relly nice gunto, Gareth! The smith is 祐光 (Sukimitsu). Can't make out the full date, as I don't have grass script down very well. It's one of those "Year 2600 + 'number'" dates. Someone like @SteveM can help with that. Actually, Sesko has it as "Sukemitsu" not Sukimitsu, and has 2 smiths listed during the war: "SUKEMITSU (祐光), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Shiga – “Bitchū no Kuni-jū Takeshita Sukemitsu” (備中国住 竹下祐光), “Gōshū Suzuka-sanroku-jū Takeshita Sukemitsu kore o saku” (江州鈴鹿山麓竹下祐光作之), real name Takeshita Zenji (竹下善自), born May 20th 1915, his father was a certain Eitarō Sukemitsu (栄太郎祐光), he studied under Okishiba Masatsugu (沖芝正次) and worked as rikgun-jumei-tōshō (see picture right) SUKEMITSU (祐光), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Gifu – “Sukemitsu” (祐光), real name Fukuda Yoshiji (福田吉二), born October 10th 1909, he worked as guntō smith" The inked writing on the end of the tsuka is just a matching number "0417" 2 Quote
SteveM Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 Yes, it looks like 皇紀二千六百三年仲冬 (Imperial year 2603, mid winter). 2603 is 1943 3 1 Quote
Butch Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Posted July 3, 2024 Thank you both for your help .. I have had this sword for a while but health issues as stopped me posting it the blade is in fantastic condition with a beautiful interesting Hamon … Gareth Quote
John C Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 3 hours ago, Butch said: a Mon Gareth: Below is the reference for your mon. I don't know the name, however the mon is associated with "Ya" (arrow). Also, the numbers in kanji on the end of the tsuka match the stamped numbers on the other fittings. John C. Quote
Butch Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Posted July 3, 2024 Thanks John C wondered what the Mon was .. Quote
George KN Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 Another Welsh member! Noswaith dda Also absolutely beautiful hamon on that gunto, and what looks to be a really nice saya as well. Very jealous. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 Very nice sword, is there any history behind it? Sometimes the writing on the Tsuka could be the officers name or related to the Mon. Edit: Bruce translated it as matching assembly numbers. Quote
Butch Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 Thanks for the comments regarding the smith called Sukehiro is there any information about him ? Thanks Gareth Quote
oli Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 4 minutes ago, Butch said: Thanks for the comments regarding the smith called Sukehiro is there any information about him ? Thanks Gareth Markus Sesko book: SUKEHIRO (祐弘), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Tōkyō – “Tenkeishi Sukehiro” (天奎子祐弘), “Sukehiro” (祐弘), real name Tomita Shōtarō (富田庄太郎), born January 29th 1891, he signed also with Sukemitsu (祐光), gō Tenkeishi (天奎子), he studied from 1912 under his grandfather Katō Sanekuni (加藤真国) and worked later as rikugun-jumei-tōshō, kihin-jōi (Akihide), Special Honor Seat at the 6th Shinsaku Nihontō Denrankai (新作日本刀展覧会, 1941) Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 13 hours ago, reeder said: Sukehiro is the smith. Thanks Brandon! I see it now - 祐弘. Well, my track record of being wrong half the time is holding strong! Quote
Butch Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 Thanks Oli is there an image of him anywhere ? Gareth Quote
oli Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 46 minutes ago, Butch said: Thanks Oli is there an image of him anywhere ? Gareth Yes in the book from Markus Sesko https://www.lulu.com...ko&page=1&pageSize=4 Quote
Butch Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 Thank you for that as I don’t have the book could anyone help to post the image for me of him … Gareth Quote
Butch Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 Will post pics of my two army sami covered swords together tomorrow … 1 2 Quote
zentsuji2 Posted July 5, 2024 Report Posted July 5, 2024 Absolutely stunning swords Butch. Love the rayskin scabbards on gunto swords ,just never see them come up for sale here that often . The hamon on the Sukehiro is beautiful ,as are the mounts and officers tassel.....great sword . Look forward to more pics of second sword Thanks for sharing them . Ian Quote
Butch Posted July 5, 2024 Author Report Posted July 5, 2024 As promised a pic of my three Sami covered sayer swords together one Navy and two Army both the Navy and one Army have been posted before but never the three together .. Thanks Gareth 4 2 Quote
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