nihonto Emura damage / re polishing advice required

[Andygw]

Hi there, i just got this Emura blade. came with ww2 saya and no tsuka,tsuba,seppa etc. the blade has been damaged at the tip as someone has tried to use sand paper or something. my question is can it be repaired? several years ago i heard of People on this site who can do polishing at a lower price but still at a decent standard.  or are there other options? any advice or imput would be greatly appreciated. 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Hi Andrew, unfortunately this looks like a lost cause. If you can imagine where the Kissaki and Boshi were.....they are long gone. For comparison, the same area on another Emura:

 

[Andygw]

oh no, such a shame. its would have been a really nice sword.. i payed 550.00 au for it. i guess i can make some money back if i sold the Saya. i will use it as a practice sword to polish it myself.. cant hurt now.. thank You so much for Your imput.

[lonely panet]

ITS UTTERLY FUKKED, AND THE FACT THAT YOU CANT SEE THE THAT WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT MAKES ME THINK DIY POLISHING ISNT YOUR THING.

 

EITHER

 

SORRY IM STUCK IN CAPS.  NOT YELLING

 

PS,  I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT ANDREW WONT TOUCH IT WITH A 900FT POLE

[ROKUJURO]

Andrew,

You should ask an expert before any DIY action. You have Andrew Ickeringill around, and with better photos (dark background, photo taken directly from above, light from the side) you might get a helpful answer from him. 

Not to say that John is wrong with his assessment of the possibilities of a restoration!

[Brian]

Can't tell from the pics how much of the tip it has lost. CVan we get an overall pic of the whole blade from directly above?

 

[Lewis B]

  On 6/22/2024 at 7:59 AM, ROKUJURO said:

Andrew,

You should ask an expert before any DIY action. You have Andrew Ickeringill around, and with better photos (dark background, photo taken directly from above, light from the side) you might get a helpful answer from him. 

Not to say that John is wrong with his assessment of the possibilities of a restoration!

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I agree. Needs some better pics to really understand how much steel has been abraded and what is left at the kissaki. It might be possible to reshape the kissaki but that is above my pay grade and still have a boshi. I personally wouldn't give up hope, but I also wouldn't use it as a practice piece either. 

[Andygw]

hi Jean,

i really appreciate that info. because i feel it could be saved,though im not a expert. i will take photos as You mentioned and get advice... will post the photos and upload them soon.

 

kind regards,

Andy

[Andygw]

[Andygw]

i hope these photos can give You a better idea of condition.

[Andygw]

[paul griff]

Hello Andrew,

                       Normally I’m doom and gloom when it comes to “bad” swords but there was a chap in the U.K who would have repaired that no problem…sadly he retired ! ….. You  would loose the way the hamon goes into the kissaki but the sword would be saved…Must be someone out there who can save it….?

Regards,

Paul..

[Andygw]

hi Paul,

 

so its saveable but wont be perfect on the kissaki? i want to save this sword, but i dont have thousands to spend on a the kissaki and polish.. does anyone know some one who can help out?

[Lewis B]

  On 6/22/2024 at 9:43 AM, Andygw said:

hi Paul,

 

so its saveable but wont be perfect on the kissaki? i want to save this sword, but i dont have thousands to spend on a the kissaki and polish.. does anyone know some one who can help out?

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Reach out to Andrew Ickeringill. He is unlikely to take it on himself as already mentioned but probably knows a competent polisher in Australia who could help. John, the owner of Nihonto.com.au might have connections too in Aus. A sympathetic restoration is what you need. 

[paul griff]

Hello Andrew,

                       Be patient..! It can take months and sometimes years to find people in this game..You have to ask around because not everyone knows everyone …Probably easier here in the U.K because it’s such a small place without vast distances to visit dealers,shows and events….These places plus collecting forums are where you build up your network of contacts…What changed my view was when a late friend bought a wakizashi that had been used as a poker for a fireplace…I should have taken a photo but couldn’t believe it how it was repaired…..

Regards,

Paul.
 

[Andygw]

brilliant! thanks Lewis. i think i will stick with this sword and find a polisher. i owned an Emura 5 years ago, it was mint. sold it for 5000.00. got this one for 550.00 au. I Love His swords. 

[Andygw]

hi Paul,

yes i will be patient, for now i will source the missing parts like the tsuka, tsuba, seppa... ive decided to keep the sword and in time get it polished. im so grateful for everyones help.. main thing is it can be restored.if thats the case.

 

kind regards, Andy

[lonely panet]

why are you guys not telling him the obvious facts,  ??

 

the sword isnt savable, stop him form dumping thounds of dolllers into a lost cause.  shame on you all

[Lewis B]

  On 6/22/2024 at 10:27 AM, lonely panet said:

why are you guys not telling him the obvious facts,  ??

 

the sword isnt savable, stop him form dumping thounds of dolllers into a lost cause.  shame on you all

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Advice is (usually) free. And he has one of the best Western Togishi on his doorstep. If Andrew says it's a hopeless cause then I'm in agreement. Then its time to turn it into a Maguro Kaitai Shou

[lonely panet]

your right,  clearly. 

 

you clearly speak with andrew often,  be on first name basis and have kantei lessons from him or had jobs declined from him.

 

bloody youtube experts.  dont fill this poor guys mind with false hope.   but i know what andrew will say.  

 

so you might aswell point him towards Aoi-art.  they will take his money

[Lewis B]

  On 6/22/2024 at 10:44 AM, lonely panet said:

 

 

you clearly speak with andrew often,  be on first name basis and have kantei lessons from him or had jobs declined from him.

 

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Correct on 2 counts Panet. 

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Andy,

It looks like the sword has lost enough kissaki/boshi that, even if it is salvageable, the cost/effort would exceed the value of a compromised Emura when complete. Funds would be better spent on a different sword.

And you need to reconsider your plan to practice polishing. It is something that can't be learned without a properly trained teacher, can't be learned from videos. Among the last things we need is another self taught sword shiner. Please don't do that.

Grey