Real or fake

[Pat5353]

Allô is it real Japon tsuba or fake copie Chinese!

[ROKUJURO]

Patrick, 

the photo is not well focused, so details cannot be seen, but I think the 3rd TSUBA (on the right) looks non-Japanese to me. 

[Jake6500]

So this brand, Ryumon is a producer of kitchen knives and modern katana's.

 

As far as I can tell they are a Chinese brand I think(?) based in Longquan, Zhejiang province. All of their products are modern ones with no historical value.

 

https://www.swordsof...st.com/ryumon_1.aspx

 

That said if you bought these modern Tsuba for display purposes and didn't pay too much, or bought them knowing they were modern pieces, I rather like them. 

[Spartancrest]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235005954807   Like Jake has said - Chinese modern, If you paid the $55 ebay is asking you can buy real Edo [low end] for a little more money - [I suggest not through ebay though.]

https://www.darkknig...ental-dragon-katana/ this shows the dragon tsuba made to fit replica swords. My advice if you see the box lid with RYUMON written on it - avoid!!

 

          What they don't show you in detail of the ura side!

 

The company also doesn't mind stealing designs from Paul Chen Hanwei - modern copying modern.

 

https://in.pinterest.../532621093405093939/       The Fuji-san one https://sbg-sword-st....com/product470.html    Not very nice close up!

[Jake6500]

21 hours ago, Spartancrest said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235005954807   Like Jake has said - Chinese modern, If you paid the $55 ebay is asking you can buy real Edo [low end] for a little more money - [I suggest not through ebay though.]

https://www.darkknig...ental-dragon-katana/ this shows the dragon tsuba made to fit replica swords. My advice if you see the box lid with RYUMON written on it - avoid!!

 

          What they don't show you in detail of the ura side!

 

The company also doesn't mind stealing designs from Paul Chen Hanwei - modern copying modern.

 

https://in.pinterest.../532621093405093939/       The Fuji-san one https://sbg-sword-st....com/product470.html    Not very nice close up!

 

Uwaaaa... These photos are certainly not as flattering!

 

As always I have much to learn from Spartan Sensei!

[Spartancrest]

7 minutes ago, Jake6500 said:

As always I have much to learn from Spartan Sensei!

Spartan [not so sensei] still has much to learn as well.  That is half the fun, imagine if we knew it all? What would we talk about? 

[Jake6500]

10 minutes ago, Spartancrest said:

Spartan [not so sensei] still has much to learn as well.  That is half the fun, imagine if we knew it all? What would we talk about? 

To Douglas Edgar Mills maybe you are Spartan-not-so-Sensei, but to me on the topic of Tsuba as a relatively new collector, you are Spartan Sensei 

[Pat5353]

Thank you all for your answers, I was planning to buy them but ultimately I wouldn't buy it knowing that it is modern according to your answers. But where can I get real, old tsuba? ( on the Web)?

Spoiler

 

 

[Mark]

there are plenty of known, reputable dealers here on NMB.  I see tsuba listed quite often.  Grey Doffin has some nice tsuba and he is easy to deal with (caveat i partner with him)  check his site https://www.Japanese...tegory/tsuba-kodogu/

 

mark

[ROKUJURO]

Patrick,

there are also a lot of private sales of TSUBA in the "For Sale" section. You could even specifify what you are looking for in the "Want to buy" section.

[Soshin]

On 6/16/2024 at 11:02 PM, Pat5353 said:

Allô is it real Japon tsuba or fake copie Chinese!

 

All the above tsuba are poor quality modern Chinese reproductions.