Nagasone Kotetsu for sale with Yamano Kaemon kinzongan mei that looks legit

[Gerry]

 

There's a kotetsu katana for sale on Yahoo Japan that has a Yamano Kaemon kinzogan yotsudo mei that looks legit:

https://www.jauce.com/auction/r1102474697

 

Considering that it's a sword in Japan with a kotetsu mei, and no origami, I assume it's gimei. So I'm wondering if Yamano Kaemon would have use da gimei blade for a cutting test?

 

Has anyone seen this before?

 

Listed sword mei on the left, compared to Nihontocraft mei on the right, which seems like a match.

 

 

 

[Toryu2020]

Its a pretty convincing fake but still a fake, walk away...

[lonely panet]

hamons a big give away,  unless hes was drunk on the that day

[PNSSHOGUN]

Remind yourself of Occam's Razor everytime you look at swords on yahoo auctions. 

[Jacques D.]

Here's the original

[Gerry]

Oh yeah, I ain't getting close to bidding on this one...I wonder who would pay 1.3M yen for an unpapered sword...

[Lewis B]

2 hours ago, Gerry said:

Oh yeah, I ain't getting close to bidding on this one...I wonder who would pay 1.3M yen for an unpapered sword...

Absolutely not, but I'm a novice collector so have a VERY low tolerance for questionable swords. There is a good chance I will buy a baddun someday I just prefer not to make mistakes at the start of my journey.

[Gerry]

20 hours ago, Jacques D. said:

Here's the original

 

Hmmm, this auction copy actually isn't far off on the actual Kotetsu mei either, in addition to coming close on the kinzogan mei.

 

 

[dkirkpatrick]

Gerry,

     I absolutely see the similarities you’re seeing and in spectrum of Kotetsu gimei this is pretty darn good but just start at the top and the first few kanji, then just at general flow. Also, the visible quality of hamon is telling.

      That said, this was a very time consuming thing to execute requiring a higher degree of skill I should think so guessing it was made as a gift for someone important.

Doug

[Gerry]

Hi Doug, 

 

Oh yes, I agree with you, that there are pretty good kotetsu fakes out there. In fact, apparently, even kotetsu himself had issues distinguishing gimei blades from his own during his lifetime. But the hamon is a dead give-away. 

[Jacques D.]

A trained eye can immediately see that the gimei's engraving lacks the quality of the shoshin. i add Yasurime don't match