Yasukuni-to

[vajo]

See that today on Facebook. I think thats a very mint Koshirae and a nice sword. The Tassel looks like replica. 

Other meaning is that the koshirae is a complete replica. What you think? For me it looks amazing. If its fake the quality is amazing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Ray Singer]

Hi Chris, I saw and commented on that as well. Do you happen to have a link for the one that recently sold on aoijapan.com? As I recall it was also in a very good condition shingunto koshirae with general tassel. Unfortunately I did not save the link. 

 

Best regards, 

Ray 

[vajo]

That one Ray?

Edit: ah no. this is type98

 

 

[Ray Singer]

That's it, thank you Chris. 

[lonely panet]

imho this has had a koshirae restoration.  the gilt and finsih on the fittings ar at 75% while the conditon on the saya and ito are 100%.  

 

and the one on aoi has been punched in on the seppa and tsuba.  

 

this seems to be a increasing activitie from Japan to sell to the unsuspecting.  i personally perfur my gunto to be 100% original and un touched
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Fittings look to have some original bits, otherwise modern replicas. Tassel is a reproduction, hangers are wrong, whole saya looks wrong.  The new owner has been swindled.

 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

I have seen a good number of "immaculate" gunto coming out of Japan, and have been assuming they are full restorations, or new construction.

 

The one at the top has a 1933 blade in it.  Theoretically, the blade could have been re-fitted when the Type 94 came out.

[BANGBANGSAN]

22 hours ago, PNSSHOGUN said:

Fittings look to have some original bits, otherwise modern replicas. Tassel is a reproduction, hangers are wrong, whole saya looks wrong.  The new owner has been swindled.

 

 

John 

 

You're spot on about the fitting. Some Yusukuni/Kikusui swords, and Mantetsu, were initially sold in Shirasaya in Japan before appearing in the Chinese market with gunto mount. The owner/seller did this to enhance the appeal and fetch a higher resale price. By the way, this Yasunori blade is legit.

[PacificRim]

So from another forum the owner of this sword claimed that all the fittings are original WW2 era and they were ‘hand crafted’ by Japanese smiths, not sure if it’s true.

[vajo]

He shows some addtional pictures. Looks all legit for me. A very stunning koshirae.

 

 

 

 

[PacificRim]

53 minutes ago, vajo said:

He shows some addtional pictures. Looks all legit for me. A very stunning koshirae.

 

 

 

 

[PacificRim]

Not sure about it’s Japanese craftsmanship, and the spring holds the chuso looks very new, just my 2 cents

[PacificRim]

This is from my 94…

[PNSSHOGUN]

Quite sophisticated but made yesterday. Enough to fool many at a summary glance.

[PacificRim]

25 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said:

Quite sophisticated but made yesterday. Enough to fool many at a summary glance.

John, that’s what I suspected as well.  The shape of the cherry blossoms is way off. 

[vajo]

Did you think the sword was sent to china to fit in a new koshirae?

Or was the koshirae made in Japan with chinese fake fittings? 

I have some problemes to handle your thoughts.

It's a legt Yasukuni-to with Hozon. And it seems the sword fits in the koshirae. 

[PacificRim]

The sword appears to be legit, I think the sword was sent to China for a Chinese made saya with fittings. 

[PNSSHOGUN]

The blade appears genuine, the Koshirae is newly made with a couple original bits. It is trying to replicate this type of fittings.

 

[PacificRim]

I think the Kabuto gane and the ishizuki are original, rest are reproductions.

[BANGBANGSAN]

7 hours ago, vajo said:

He shows some addtional pictures. Looks all legit for me. A very stunning koshirae.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The notable gap between the scabbard throat and liner, which is unlikely in a custom job, potentially damages the sword shop's reputation. It's challenging to imagine that an officer willing to invest extra money would overlook such a flaw. 

[John C]

Probably doesn't mean anything, however there aren't any assembly marks or numbers on the parts we can see. I would expect to see something - a shop stamp maybe?

 

John C.

[Bryce]

G'day Guys,

The small details on this just don't look right to me. I know that some of these details do vary, especially between different koshirae makers, but in this case, all the small details are different. I think it must be a repro as well.

Cheers,

Bryce