Antique Japanese Sword Made by HISAMICHI 久道 NBTHK NIHONTO Koshirae Samurai Edo

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Spoiler

 

I probably shouldn’t buy from Japan but it seems to have alot of swords for good prices

 

 

Also many positions I never bought from Japan before but this one struck my interest 

its NBTHK certificate with the emperor seal 

 

Being a short sword  reduces price 

What I really wanted is a NLF type 44 but it’s hard to find one by Nagamitsu in good condition and  doesn’t break the bank 

 Dose anyone know about the dealer?  dose he sell decent swords and trust worthy?

 

 

Steve 

[Scogg]

I'm sure others will chime in, as this topic has been covered a lot

In the meantime, it would be wise to read this article about the old green papers. It's a 'web archive' article, so you'll have to scroll down to the content. 

https://web.archive....en-papers-no-papers/


Best of luck,
-Sam

[Brian]

Wakizashi with essentially no papers (almost guaranteed to be gimei)
That's a sword you better want to keep...because you'll never sell it for any decent money. If it was shoshin, and the seller is in Japan....it would have been repapered! Read that again 10 times.

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Green papers never thought theses were forged It’s crazy there’s so many positives 

Probably alot of people don’t know this!

can’t trust anyone 

great info thanks 

[nulldevice]

I could understand justifying green papers for some blades that were papered in the old green-paper era and have been out of the country ever since. Maybe a blade being sold by someone without a deep knowledge that bought a sword many years ago and has had it in their collection ever since. 

 

However, any blade that is worth its salt, is worth getting repapered. Why? Because it will immediately add value to the sword. Dealers in Japan have much easier access to NBTHK shinsa than anyone else. So why would they not go through the small trouble of getting a blade papered if it would increase the value of the sword significantly? The only reason I can think of is that they are selling to the non-Japanese market where 99% of people would never have heard about green papers having issues in the past with attributions. 

 

I was this same person before I joined here. I saw plenty of blades with "official papers" and never thought to question until I read the article posted here regarding the older papers and their issues. It seems to me that the Japanese dealers know this, hardcore collectors know this, and Japanese collectors know this. The only ones who largely don't know this are novices and foreigners. Which seem to be the target audience of many of these eBay sellers based in Japan that are selling old-papered swords. 

[Rivkin]

There are plenty of signatures examples for 2nd and 3rd generation Hisamichi against which one can check the signatures. Its not too tricky one and if there is a good match then its most likely ok. Unfortunately, even the 2nd generation was faked from time to time.

[Nihonto student]

Dear Steven,

 

maybe in the next days I should have time to post some photos of my Hisamichi nidai, even if the signature is eroded and only part of the Eda kiku remains. However I can say that the Eda kiku is executed a bit crudely compared to the examples you can see here http://www.nihonto.us/HISAMICHI KATANA.htm  also note how the stem in your example is very short... regarding the blade I would expect chu kissaki with Mishina boshi (Like mine) IMHO O kissaki as in your example doesn't seem appropriate...

 

Regards,

 

Giordy