WW2 Officers Noshu Taniguchi

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For sale WW2 Japanese Army Sword In Full Polish I am reducing price to 2700 including 100.00 shipping via PayPal F&F

I added a note from the polisher He is well known Probably the best polish and hamon I have ever seen 

 

 

Steve

 

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This sword already has threads about this smith but I wanted to add additional ones with these pictures 

 

 

[lonely panet]

its back

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Gee you figured that out all by yourself 

[lonely panet]

well with alllllll the conversation and imput you received with your last sale attempt,  you didnt seem to take any onboard.

its nice, dont get me wrong but still top end for a oil quenched sword.  it was posted for along time and didnt sell, so why not change your approach.  either better photos,  different pricing etc.  but you should change your approach because when things cant sell,  they attract a unfair stigma and no bodys wants that for anyone.  

 

sit down,  re approach the sword,  set up a good back ground and new photos.  make a sales page so attractive it begs IJA guys to want it,  dont just rehash old pics and expect a different outcome from the same failed attempts from the past. 

 

for example,  same stome different lighting.  one looks ok,  the other looks so good you must buy it

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True better pictures would help Yes we have been through this before than you should know it’s not oil quenched

The polisher won’t do oil quenched  and if he did it would not turn out like mine I think he would know more than most people 

 

 

 

 

 

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I just talked with the polisher You were right its oil quenched but because of the grains it was folded using good metals or a mixture 

Brian mentioned it’s a hybrid

 

It’s better then your average sword in ww2 era not massed produced as Woody pointed out 

 

Im going to try and get more pictures but it’s hard using my phone plus I waited 4 months to get it back from Woody

 

Woody is so backed up with orders he’s not taking any more swords so if it doesn’t sell I don’t mind keeping it

 

Thanks for bringing this up

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

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Hi lonely planet I contacted Woody Hall who polished my sword and I wanted give his comment about my Taniguchi sword to anyone who else 

 

Steve

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I’m taking a huge loss but I’m gonna ask 2600  plus 100.00 shipping priority insurance 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve 

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I didn’t want to bring the polisher into the comments but I wanted to prove a point 

 

I believe the polisher would know more than anyone  about this sword!  I know this thread has been going on for quite awhile but since I’m selling it, I want to have all the facts 

I also wanted to thank everyone who participated 

 

I probably shouldn’t have spent money for polish but because hamon is quite extraordinary i am glad I did

If anyone needs additional pictures let me know 

 

 

 

Steve

[lonely panet]

Traditionally trained togishi have very little knowledge about non traditional military swords, for very obvious reasons.

 

The reason its not selling is its in a excessively high price bracket for a oily.

 

Look at what others on the forum are priced at. Just because you over capitalised, dont ask others to do the same to recoup your costs

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If you read the comments is not just an oily sword arsenal sword ! It was folded in the traditional sense and a quality sword 

You obviously don’t know what you’re talking about I  don’t care if you’re not interested 

or recouping my money You’re looking in the wrong place I think you should Buy on EBay 

 

 

 

[lonely panet]

If you pick up your hurt feeling, and look at my post, my use of slang terminology im sorry.

 

Its simply that its a non traditionally made Japanese sword. I didn't on any level imply it was low quality.  Gendai are posted here for less, but you keep reposting the sword with rough photos and expect positive results 

[GeorgeLuucas]

It's a good looking sword, Steve. Whether or not it was folded was never the question or issue. Folding is only one of the many qualifiers for a traditionally made sword. To my knowledge, only the type 95 and some sabres weren't folded. 
 

You may have better luck with this item amongst WW2 militaria collectors instead of Nihonto collectors. Being a higher end arsenal blade (not traditionally made), it might not sell quickly here - so you'll have to find the right buyer which will take time and patience.

Highlight the history, condition, and the fact that the blade was restored professionally by one of the best - for optimum admiration and preservation. It's always best to use your own words. They say restoring swords is more about preserving history than it is an entrepreneurial venture. You've helped preserve some WW2 history, and there's some merit in that.

Any prospective buyer will definitely want more pictures too. I know I would. 
Best of luck,

-Sam

Edited April 8 by GeorgeLuucas

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Thanks George I agree not traditional made with water rather oil quench however You can see the grain where it was folded I

I believe the polisher would know this since it’s his profession and is well informed He polished many swords including mine! I don’t want to keep beating a dead horse with this sword 

but It’s not your typical arsenal sword 

Oil quench= Folded = quality blade

Nothing more I can add

 

It disturbs me having put this in the sell category  and  get others who derail my attempts to sell with wrong information 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[lonely panet]

Not derailing,but attempting to educate and help.

 

I am not beating, belittling attacking or discrediting any one or evan the sword or woodys good work.

 

The sword ranking system with IJM swords could look like this  and goes.

Machine made

Non traditional

Traditional 

Inside these ranks are categories, within the categories are values both financial and artistic. They vary apon rarity and demand and quality.

 

 

Yours is in the middle. Tho it has a high artistic value,  its not traditionally made. There for NOT a gendaito.  

[GeorgeLuucas]

There was never any doubt that it’s made with folded steel, or that it’s a quality piece. 

Sorry I wasn’t very clear about that.

Lonely planet gave great advice about the new photos on his gemstone comment. And more good info on his comment above. 

 

Sincerely, 

-Sam 

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Thanks for the advice and information 

Because this isn’t your typical arsenal it’s hard to categorize it Thanks for your help 

 

 

Steve

[David Flynn]

No matter how hard one tries, one can't make a silk purse form a sows ear.      This blade is a Showa to.  Yes, the sword has probably been folded, however, it's oil quenched.  So no matter how you look at it,  (I don't like the term, Arsenal Blade) it is what it is.

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Thanks to all It is what it is but still a nice sword and amazing hamon by Woody 

 

 

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I need cash so I decided to lower price to 2500 if anyones interested plus 85.00 shipping and insurance 

I added additional pictures 

 

 

 

 

Steve

 

 

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I need money so my sword is 2400

if  anybody wants it

 

 

Steve

[vajo]

An very well hand forged sword with a interesting hamon and a beautifull mei, new polished and the Koshirae in good condition. A good package! 

Its a high end showa-to. Hard to find anything better. This shows all the Japanese swordsmith experience with mixed steel and oil hardning. 

 

 

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Good not have said it better! Now if I could sell it 

The polish alone cost more than the sword 

I know I can’t get what I have into it but for this price I am pretty much giving my sword for free

 

[ag36]

I am quite interested but I am in the UK, the shipping and customs is bit of a issue for me.

 

I heard Showatou were usually electrolysis steel and oil quenched Monosteel which are quite interesting for me, usually this means a softer but less fragile steel with a much lower failure rate at quenching which means much lower cost to make one, hamon with strong contrast but lacking some complexity, somewhat different feel on the whetstone too.

 

I collect and polish honyaki Kitchen knives regularly and if the condition and price is right...pretty exciting to get one to compare with Shirogami steel, no way I'll try to polish one of course.

 

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Sorry it’s sold I should have removed it

I sold it to a guy from England

 

 

 

 

Steve

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Actually Didn’t have an issue with customs

I enclosed a letter stating its description 

and out side The wording was tricky but 

it went through ok