sword that should not exist??

[The Blacksmith]

For what it is worth, I think the mei is trying to say Yamaguchi Toshiyoshi, but don't take my word for it, as my kanji is deplorable these days!

[Jacob Rudnicki]

what? Yamaguchi.....? oh my God..........

[Ray Singer]

It reads 山口修吉. What is it that you believe this sword to be based on your personal translation? 

 

This link may be helpful. 

http://www.jssus.org...japanese_swords.html

 

 

 

 

[Jacob Rudnicki]

thank you:))))))))

[Brian]

13 hours ago, Ray Singer said:

It reads 山口修吉. What is it that you believe this sword to be based on your personal translation? 

 

This link may be helpful. 

http://www.jssus.org...japanese_swords.html

 

 

 

 

I second this. Can you tell us what you think this is?

Btw...this is faking the prefecture/area of Japan, nothing to do with the Yakuza

[The Blacksmith]

@Ray Singer Ray, what is your reading of this please. Yamaguchi is easy enough, and my reading of the last kanji is Yoshi, though it may have other readings perhaps. But that third kanji is one that I am unfamiliar with. My thinking was that it was a perhaps a badly written Toshi.

[Ray Singer]

山口修吉 in Japanese Yamaguchi Shukichi (I believe). Since we know this is not a Japanese sword, a more appropriate Chinese reading of 修吉 might be Xiuji. 

[The Blacksmith]

Shukichi, that is interesting. Thank you very much for that Ray, much appreciated. It is forty odd years since I learned to read any kanji, and I have forgotten much of it, so I am in the process of trying to remember them again! 

[lonely panet]

it should be retiltied to the POST THAT SHOULD NOT EXIST

[Jacob Rudnicki]

On 3/29/2024 at 7:11 PM, vajo said:

You're on to something big. Don't let yourself be put off

Vajo, do u know somebody who can decipher the name?

[Brian]

He's being sarcastic, don't put too much into that reply. Why are you trying to decipher gibberish that means nothing?

[Jacob Rudnicki]

Brian, I just receive an email with translation:) 

First, the name on the sword in this photo reads "Shukichi Yamaguchi.”

A search using this person's name revealed that there are several books written by this person on Japanese swords.

For example, in "Japanese Sword Course" (published in 1935), in the chapter "How to Roll the Handle", we can see that he wrote about the different types of handle rolling and the techniques used.

In another book, he also wrote "On the Revised New Military Sword Pattern Millstones" by Shukichi Yamaguchi.

According to my research, this man's main job was to wrap the cloth around the hilt of the sword, called tsukamakishi (柄巻師).

Therefore, it is unknown if Yamaguchi Shukichi himself made swords and put his name on them. I have been able to confirm that he was knowledgeable about swords, but it seems that his specialty was not sword making, but rather handle wrapping.

In particular, the kanji used in Shukichi Yamaguchi's name is not "修" but "脩”, so, I guess it was. Someone else may have engraved this person's name instead.

[Jacob Rudnicki]

now I know:)

 

[Jacob Rudnicki]

basically I am more than grateful: sword made by Feng Chu Chan from Longquan "Traditional Japanese Sword Factory Longquan China, Limited Co. & Son" especially for Shukichi Yamaguchi... haha I knew it must be something:))

[Brian]

You really refuse to listen, don't you??

You have a $20 Chinese fake sword made for no-one, with a random scrawl on it. It isn't even proper Japanese. The fittings are junk Chinese. The hamon isn't real. It was put together by some Chinese factory worker who probably made 20 that same day.
Don't know why you refuse to listen to a forum with some of the best minds out here, who do this for a living. Whoever scratched some random marks on this didn't even know who Shukichi Yamaguchi was.
Not sure if you are just a die hard or a troll. Either way, this thread is pointless.

[Jacob Rudnicki]

so it's not Feng Chu Chan from Longquan "Traditional Japanese Sword Factory Longquan China, Limited Co. & Son ?

[Jacob Rudnicki]

According to you Brian Vajo was wrong?

[Brian]

No...I told you, he was being sarcastic. Longquan makes thousands of fake Japanese swords, but there is nothing here linking it to that factory, and especially not a certain worker. This isn't even at the level that Longquan factories make.

[Matsunoki]

Troll for sure….simply playing games.

 

[vajo]

1 hour ago, Jacob Rudnicki said:

According to you Brian Vajo was wrong?

 

Jacob you sword is so wrong in all parts. It is cheap and sloppy made. The dremeled Kanji are total wrong and nonsense. This is a garbage ugly copy of something that would like a Japanese sword. A $25 wall hanger in a chinese snack bar somewhere in asia.

 

Dig it in your garden. Wait 1.000 years and it will be an ancient artifact. 

[Skeezy Bojangle]

This is litterly my first post as I just joined this forum as I just obtained my first antique Japanese sword. I have a laymans knowlege of this stuff at best, and even I knew immediatedly this was a fake... this guy must be trolling. lol

 

P.S. And a hello to everyone else!

[Jacob Rudnicki]

ok, many thanks.. I will try to find something better:)