Pomwah Posted March 23, 2024 Report Posted March 23, 2024 Greetings, I have little knowledge of Nihonto but I have been fortunate enough to lay my hands on a sword. It was, apparently, brought to Australia, after WWII from New Guinea, having been used by a Japanese Army officer. Is it an authentic item? It is in poor condition generally even having been bent. Can anyone shed some light on the sword. I'd like to remove the handle to examine the tang to determine if there is a maker's mark but have yet to find a description of the correct method to do so. The photos aren't great, happy to take more to aid identification. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 23, 2024 Report Posted March 23, 2024 Hi James, first impressions are that this is a Chinese fake. This is due to the rather prominent and gaudy pattern of the steel, which you generally do not see on authentic Japanese swords (with rare exceptions). http://www.jssus.org...japanese_swords.html There is a video guide on how to remove the Tsuka, though sometimes these Chinese swords are glued in. 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted March 23, 2024 Report Posted March 23, 2024 James, please see below. http://www.jssus.org...japanese_swords.html Quote
ROKUJURO Posted March 23, 2024 Report Posted March 23, 2024 Not removing the handle will probably save you from a disappointment.... Quote
John C Posted March 23, 2024 Report Posted March 23, 2024 17 hours ago, Pomwah said: Can anyone shed some light on the sword. James: My first impression was also a reproduction. The reason for that is the exaggerated cloud pattern of the steel. The Japanese typically did not forge swords that way. Indeed, most of the fakes we see have this cloud pattern acid etched into them. There are exceptions, however. John C. Quote
rematron Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 In line with the above comments, I also observe that the TSUKA (handle) wrapping is not up to par with a traditional NIHONTO. Not solid proof but more evidence. Quote
Pomwah Posted April 3, 2024 Author Report Posted April 3, 2024 Thank you all. Not looking too closely into the sword is probably a good idea. Even so, I'd like to know if it is a fake or not, it's a talking point if nothing else. Quote
Seth Posted April 3, 2024 Report Posted April 3, 2024 It’s a real “sword” but it is not an authentic nihonto. So based on your question yes it is fake. Did you have any luck removing the tsuka? Quote
2devnul Posted April 4, 2024 Report Posted April 4, 2024 Hi, Same (by looking on pictures, before reading other comments) assumption here. Hada and Tsuka looks Chinese made to me. Can you make close-up pictures of Kissaki? Usually Chinese fakes also fail in there (Yokote). Removing Tsuka will revile more, I'm expecting Chinese Nakago. Quote
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