Avidmark Posted March 15, 2024 Report Posted March 15, 2024 My first Nihonto. It’s nothing special but I’m proud to be its custodian. I purchased it from Aoi Art in Japan. Im just a baby in the world of Nihonto and thought I’d jump in and buy early in my journey to learn from a blade in hand. Open to comments and opinions. 12 5 1 Quote
cluckdaddy76 Posted March 15, 2024 Report Posted March 15, 2024 Not shabby at all for your first piece, enjoy!!!! If it does not have koshaire , you could start on a next project and get a set put together. I am newer here too, my suggestion is to get a few books and start reading. It will save you headaches and lost money down the road. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 15, 2024 Author Report Posted March 15, 2024 On 3/15/2024 at 8:52 PM, cluckdaddy76 said: Not shabby at all for your first piece, enjoy!!!! If it does not have koshaire , you could start on a next project and get a set put together. I am newer here too, my suggestion is to get a few books and start reading. It will save you headaches and lost money down the road. Expand Been buying a bunch! And reading a bunch. Koshirae is what I was originally thinking but didn’t realize how big of a project it will be. Maybe in the future though. Quote
Jon Posted March 24, 2024 Report Posted March 24, 2024 Well done, nice first blade, very wise to purchase a signed blade in Polish. Did it come papered ? Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/24/2024 at 11:21 PM, Jon said: Well done, nice first blade, very wise to purchase a signed blade in Polish. Did it come papered ? Expand It did! Tokubetsu hozon. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 Congratulations! Looks like a lovely blade. Apparently the 2nd generation Nobuyoshi, according to Tsuruta San at Aoi Art, later changed his title (affiliation?) from 藤原 Fujiwara to 源 Minamoto. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 2:09 AM, Bugyotsuji said: Congratulations! Looks like a lovely blade. Apparently the 2nd generation Nobuyoshi, according to Tsuruta San at Aoi Art, later changed his title (affiliation?) from 藤原 Fujiwara to 源 Minamoto. Expand Yes I read that in the initial description. Do you know if it was common for smiths to change names? And for what reason? Quote
John C Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 2:15 AM, Avidmark said: Do you know if it was common for smiths to change names? Expand Mark: Is your blade read as shinano no kami? If so, I believe that is 1st gen Nobuyoshi. Smiths would change mei when an honorific title was bestowed upon them. John C. Quote
The Blacksmith Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 Congratulations on acquiring your first nihonto. A far more imposing piece than my first one that is certain! Well done. As has been mentioned, if you haven't already done so, then start acquiring a good library, this is essential, and imensely rewarding. 1 Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 3:52 AM, John C said: Mark: Is your blade read as shinano no kami? If so, I believe that is 1st gen Nobuyoshi. Smiths would change mei when an honorific title was bestowed upon them. John C. Expand Documentation from Aoi Art states “Shinano Kami Fujiwara Nobuyoshi (2nd generation).” However I can’t translate the signature on the Nakago yet. At some point I’ll give a go at learning that but may need to get assistance. Documentation also states “his real name is Takai Kinsaburou, and later changed his mei to Minamoto”. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 8:40 AM, The Blacksmith said: Congratulations on acquiring your first nihonto. A far more imposing piece than my first one that is certain! Well done. As has been mentioned, if you haven't already done so, then start acquiring a good library, this is essential, and imensely rewarding. Expand Thank you! I’ve been heavily investing in beginner books. Quote
cisco-san Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 from Markus book: NOBUYOSHI (信吉), 2 nd gen., Enpō (延宝, 1673-1681), Yamashiro – “Shinano no Kami Fujiwara Nobuyoshi” (信濃守藤原信吉), “Rakuyō Shinano no Kami Minamoto Nobuyoshi” (洛陽信濃守源信吉), according to a theory it was the 2nd gen. who bore the real name Takai Kinzaburō (高井金三郎), he lived in Kyōto´s Aburanokōji (油小路), we know blades from the Enpō to the Genroku era (元禄, 1688-1704) and he also worked in Ōsaka, chūjō-saku 1 Quote
John C Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 The whole page from Sesko notes 1st gen as Takai Kinzaburo but a theory that it was second gen. So the jury is still out. John C. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 2:47 PM, cisco-san said: from Markus book: NOBUYOSHI (信吉), 2 nd gen., Enpō (延宝, 1673-1681), Yamashiro – “Shinano no Kami Fujiwara Nobuyoshi” (信濃守藤原信吉), “Rakuyō Shinano no Kami Minamoto Nobuyoshi” (洛陽信濃守源信吉), according to a theory it was the 2nd gen. who bore the real name Takai Kinzaburō (高井金三郎), he lived in Kyōto´s Aburanokōji (油小路), we know blades from the Enpō to the Genroku era (元禄, 1688-1704) and he also worked in Ōsaka, chūjō-saku Expand Thanks for the info. What book is this from? Quote
cisco-san Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 eBook from Markus Sesko - very useful! https://markussesko....wordsmiths-of-Japan/ https://www.lulu.com...an&page=1&pageSize=4 Quote
The Blacksmith Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 A book that cannot be recommended highly enough........... Unfortunately, no photographs, but a superb book nevertheless! Another book that I would recommend, and one that does have many beautiful photo illustrations is...... It is a stunning book and extremely well explained. Not blades that we are likely to be able to acquire, but extremely informative. 2 Quote
Mister Gunto Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 Congrats on a great first purchase! You did better than I did with my first. 2 Quote
John C Posted March 25, 2024 Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 4:17 PM, Avidmark said: Thanks for the info. What book is this from? Expand Mark: For a reference, the page I posted for you is from that book. The last paragraph on that page is the one you and others highlighted. Take a look at the paragraph just prior listed as Nobuyoshi 1st gen. This may give you additional information. John C. p.s. I also own a 2nd gen papered Nobuyoshi and have an extensive file of research. if there is something specific you are looking for, let me know. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 7:29 PM, John C said: Mark: For a reference, the page I posted for you is from that book. The last paragraph on that page is the one you and others highlighted. Take a look at the paragraph just prior listed as Nobuyoshi 1st gen. This may give you additional information. John C. p.s. I also own a 2nd gen papered Nobuyoshi and have an extensive file of research. if there is something specific you are looking for, let me know. Expand You’ve been very helpful, thank you. I’ll keep that in mind. Quote
Avidmark Posted March 25, 2024 Author Report Posted March 25, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 6:19 PM, The Blacksmith said: A book that cannot be recommended highly enough........... Unfortunately, no photographs, but a superb book nevertheless! Another book that I would recommend, and one that does have many beautiful photo illustrations is...... It is a stunning book and extremely well explained. Not blades that we are likely to be able to acquire, but extremely informative. Expand I’m 3/4 through “Connoisseurs”, finished “The Japanese sword a comprehensive guide”, “The Samurai Sword”, and have been considering Cutting Edge. I’ll have to find a copy based on your recommendation. Quote
Jon Posted March 27, 2024 Report Posted March 27, 2024 On 3/25/2024 at 9:39 PM, Avidmark said: I’m 3/4 through “Connoisseurs”, finished “The Japanese sword a comprehensive guide”, “The Samurai Sword”, and have been considering Cutting Edge. I’ll have to find a copy based on your recommendation. Expand cutting edge is a great book and can now be picked up in soft back for little money…not sure if it’s as good picture wise as the hard back editions ? Quote
Avidmark Posted March 27, 2024 Author Report Posted March 27, 2024 On 3/27/2024 at 12:17 AM, Jon said: cutting edge is a great book and can now be picked up in soft back for little money…not sure if it’s as good picture wise as the hard back editions ? Expand Just ordered it online! Quote
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