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help with mei on old tang/nakago

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It's so faint that maybe I'l never really know. the darn thing looks 500 years old though with the pitting and discoloration. The shape of the blade matches up with the Momoyama period.

 

I just can't find a match for that 2nd kanji character. It may have been cut off. Looks like the nakago may have been shortened.

 

Steve

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I'm new at this guys so I hare to ask questions and learn as much as I can. My understanding is that eack kanji is part of the name. This sword has 2 and the first one being as you say naga and the second one being hiro. Am I at least correct in my understanding?

 

So on Steve's kanji charts I found 2 names that matched the first kanji character, Naga and Kiyo. I feel that Kiyo is a slightly better match. I didn't find anything that matched the 2nd kanji for hiro.

 

Feel free to point out which character says what and why.

 

Please don't take my questions as an insult as they're not meant to be.

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Ted Tenold Mentor

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Just to play devils advocate

 

I don't think the devil needs any help with this one. :roll:

 

 

what do you thibk of the kiyo vs. naga

 

There is a minor stroke difference between this very common Naga character, and the *highly* uncommon form of Kiyo that it resembles. So the question would then be; "If the identity of this kanji is still in question, is there a smith with the name Kiyohiro utilizing that rare form of Kiyo listed in any references?"

 

I Imagine that Naga has several variations in the signature and is an individual thing.

 

Yes, but you can really overthink these things sometimes and make them harder than they really are. When you hear galloping hooves in the distance, it's better to assume they're a horse and not a zebra. :roll:

Ted Tenold Mentor

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Unless you are in Africa :D

 

 

True indeed! :laughabove: But what you really should assume is that something is chasing them, whatever they are.....so don't stick around to find out. Run like hell. :shock: :)

Brian

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The Kiyo theory excludes some obvious strokes that can't be ignored. Sometimes it is just best to accept what is offered. Can't always see what they see, but you might later with 10 years more study. Sometimes I don't see everything Moriyama san sees for example. But I am happy to accept the conclusion since my background does not give me a fundamental knowledge basis.

Anyways..the point is..even in Africa we expect horses and not zebra. :lol:

 

Brian

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The Kiyo theory excludes some obvious strokes that can't be ignored. Sometimes it is just best to accept what is offered. Can't always see what they see, but you might later with 10 years more study. Sometimes I don't see everything Moriyama san sees for example. But I am happy to accept the conclusion since my background does not give me a fundamental knowledge basis.

Anyways..the point is..even in Africa we expect horses and not zebra. :lol:

 

Brian

agree brian, moriyama san experience in reading kanji is without doubt second to none and he can see things i will never see in my lifetime of studying.....

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