Kane translation help

[grapppa]

I am working on a project to translate WWII smiths into electronic form using Slough's research.  In order to get the electronic kanji symbols I am using https://Japanese-names.info/last-name.    I have been very successful except for a few names - notably  KANE.   The translations I find are   兼 and  金.     Many smiths with KANE is found in Slough as 

 

The source is a comprehensive list and I can find accurate translations for 90% of the name symbols but KANE, and others, like MASA have eluded me.   I searched many many entries yet no luck finding symbol that matches the one above.

 

A sample of my work is below from p71 KANETSUGU.   I will add differentiating first names later, if applicable.

兼 継

Kanetsugu

 

 

Is the difference due to kazuuchihimei  vs nakirishimei?

 

I can make my document available when I complete it, if interested.  Thanks in advance!

[Brian]

兼 is correct for the above mei.

[Stephen]

You'll want to search the board as Morita San has corrected all the errors in Sloughs book

[Bruce Pennington]

You'll find many smiths had a personal writing style and could get pretty creative with their kanji.  Add to that the mei that are written in the Japanese cursive style and guys like us just pull our hair out!  

The two kanji you posted are the only 2 "Kane" forms I am aware of.

[John C]

14 hours ago, grapppa said:

I searched many many entries yet no luck finding symbol that matches the one above.

 

Paul:

I imagine you've looked at Sesko's List of Mei Characters. He lists the one above and 5 others associated with Kane. Not sure how it lines up with Slough, however.

 

John C.

[Mark S.]

Please excuse the quality of the attached info, but it is from an on-line snapshot from another source… so a copy of a copy of a copy… 

 

From Japanese Swordsmiths Vol 1 & 2 by Hawley:

 

[Mark S.]

From Mino-To by Malcolm Cox

 

[grapppa]

13 minutes ago, Mark S. said:

Please excuse the quality of the attached info, but it is from an on-line snapshot from another source… so a copy of a copy of a copy… 

 

From Japanese Swordsmiths Vol 1 & 2 by Hawley:

 

 

 

I can clearly identify the 4th kanji from the left....   fascinating.... thank you

[Mark S.]

I’m sorry if what I’m about to show is too rudimentary, but sometimes it helps to see the difference between the formal kanji with a different form laid over the top.  Original kanji in black and kanji you showed in red (very rough ):

 

[grapppa]

Not too rudimentary for me.  Somewhat of a stretch for me admittedly... but good for training the eye to the variability in writing.  I guess one has to learn by example.  Thank you!   ...now on to MASA  

[mecox]

Mark, an update

 

[grapppa]

Look what I found  in J. Yumoto The Samurai Sword  p.115

[grapppa]

and MASA is solved on  p.117

[Stephen]

8 hours ago, grapppa said:

Look what I found  in J. Yumoto The Samurai Sword  p.115

You'll even find Kane so exaggerated it won't have any legs