karatekutya Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 Hi All! Posted this sword earlier , saw it on a website few days ago , interesting saya covering , under the leather is green fabric ! how common is it ? also the blade is 19,5 inch and the saya is 25 inch, website said blade looks made traditionally way, can be a older made ? or made arround ww2 ? interesting one , what do you think of all this ? Quote
Scogg Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 The only Gunto component that I can see, is the saya and leather cover; and maybe the Ito color? It looks more like a civilian sword, outfitted for WW2. Or even just a civilian sword that had a ww2 saya added later. A closer look at the fittings would determine whether or not my theory is correct.. The guard looks like it could be an iron tsuba. Never seen the green fabric before, but looks interesting! The hamachi looks like it has some chipping damage. I am not knowledgable enough to estimate it's possible age. Although, the red rust and condition of the Nakago leads me to believe it's not particularly old. May I ask what the asking price is? The more knowledgable here might be able to tell you if it's a good deal or not, Best of luck, -Sam Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 Not enough photos of the blade to answer the question about how it was made, but that is a fascinating saya! I can honestly say I have never seen a leather cover over a canvas cover (or fabric). Here is a zoom of one of the shots I have of this. I suspect it was traditionally made, but the nihonto guys will have to jump on that question. 1 Quote
karatekutya Posted October 18, 2023 Author Report Posted October 18, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 8:16 PM, GeorgeLuucas said: The only Gunto component that I can see, is the saya and leather cover; and maybe the Ito color? It looks more like a civilian sword, outfitted for WW2. Or even just a civilian sword that had a ww2 saya added later. A closer look at the fittings would determine whether or not my theory is correct.. The guard looks like it could be an iron tsuba. Never seen the green fabric before, but looks interesting! The hamachi looks like it has some chipping damage. I am not knowledgable enough to estimate it's possible age. Although, the red rust and condition of the Nakago leads me to believe it's not particularly old. May I ask what the asking price is? The more knowledgable here might be able to tell you if it's a good deal or not, Best of luck, -Sam Expand Hi Sam ! Thank You , Well its $500 , attaching few more pictures Quote
Scogg Posted October 18, 2023 Report Posted October 18, 2023 Thanks for the photos! Personally, I think it’s traditionally made. It looks like a Nihonto to me Definitely not a gunto tsuba. I’m not comfortable speaking to the price, just because I’m a novice compared to most on here, but I’ll list out the pros and cons that I see Cons: mumei, unpapered, neglected condition, chipped hamachi to the point that it’s missing, fingerprints all over the blade, the red rust on tsuba and nakago (could be remedied), the lack of photos of the kissaki and it’s condition looks concerning to me Pros: some visible activity, interesting looking hamon, probably traditionally made, has koshirae, that unique green fabric Personally I’d save my money for a different sword in better condition. I’ve seen some go for similar prices lately. It might even be worth posting in the “wanted to buy” section and see what other forum members have for sale. Best of luck, cheers, -Sam Quote
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