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I've been researching this as bitchu kuni ietsugu it appears there's quite a few ietsugu's so I thought it would be wise to check with you guys .thanks

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5 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

備中國家次 looks to be correct. How many did you find working in Bitchū province?

3 but they were active in  1300.im not sure the blade is that old.gimei maybe?.thanks

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15 minutes ago, paul alex said:

3 but they were active in  1300.im not sure the blade is that old.gimei maybe?.thanks

Do you have any pictures of the entire blade, and the entire tang? Examination of the tang for the yasurime file marks as well as the tagane and tagane-makura can help to determine the age of a blade.

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7 minutes ago, tbonesullivan said:

Do you have any pictures of the entire blade, and the entire tang? Examination of the tang for the yasurime file marks as well as the tagane and tagane-makura can help to determine the age of a blade.

 

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Hawley list 10 Ietsugu (he spells it Iyetsugu) from Bitchu.

 

Abbr                           rating                                Peak period

IYE355                          80                                         1213-19

IYE356                           20                                         1234

IYE357                           20                                          1347

IYE358                          90                                          1362-69

IYE359                          60                                           1375-94

IYE360                          35                                           1346-69

IYE361                          20                                            1394

IYE362                          65                                            1452-90

IYE363                         30                                             1452

IYE364                         15                                              1525

 

He lists the signature 備中國家次 for IYE 363 and IYE361, but in my experience his signature lists are not exhaustive, e.g. others form the list above may have used the gojimei 備中國家次.

 

I hope this is useful

 

Alexi

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Posted
2 hours ago, AlexiG said:

Hawley list 10 Ietsugu (he spells it Iyetsugu) from Bitchu.

 

Abbr                           rating                                Peak period

IYE355                          80                                         1213-19

IYE356                           20                                         1234

IYE357                           20                                          1347

IYE358                          90                                          1362-69

IYE359                          60                                           1375-94

IYE360                          35                                           1346-69

IYE361                          20                                            1394

IYE362                          65                                            1452-90

IYE363                         30                                             1452

IYE364                         15                                              1525

 

He lists the signature 備中國家次 for IYE 363 and IYE361, but in my experience his signature lists are not exhaustive, e.g. others form the list above may have used the gojimei 備中國家次.

 

I hope this is useful

 

Alexi

Thanks Alexi there's a few there I have not seen  I've seen  iyetsugu and thought it could be ietsugu of the 3 smiths I found iye358 signed with small mei I think the mei on my blade is quite small.its a shame the blade is out of polish and not revealing any more info.this is the first translation I've got right and no one's said gimei so a good day for me.thanks again for you help

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