Stephen Posted September 5, 2023 Author Report Posted September 5, 2023 Good thinking, depends on time on month. I often hear geese at dusk an dawn when their migrating Good questions tho 1 Quote
Matsunoki Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Spartancrest said: Is the Moon in silver, Sun in gold 7 hours ago, Spartancrest said: One other thing why do we see Geese flying at night, do they have radar Hi Dale Yes, generally moon in silver, sun in gold. Mostly it’s geese in the moonlight. Geese flying in moonlight is a very poetic and evocative subject in Japan as indeed is just the moon on its own…..moon viewing parties etc. The masses of arriving/departing migrant geese are symbols of the changing seasons, from autumn to winter and then winter to spring. Geese fly mostly just before dawn from their roost to their feeding grounds and then at dusk from feeding grounds to roost. How the heck they navigate thousands of miles twice a year is a mystery….no one knows for sure. Theories include the earths magnetic field, the stars and inherited knowledge. Clever little things. One of my favourite sounds is the huge flocks of geese flying over my home during winter….thousands of them sometimes. Long reply…sorry….favourite subject. Best. Colin. 1 1 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 Interesting question about Jitsugetsu 日月 and the different colours and materials used to represent them and their meanings. The moon of course is often depicted in waxing or waning phase, something the sun does not do. And as any hunter knows, geese come winging back to home in onto bodies of water in the late evening. A full moon on the other hand seems to go with clouds, like love and marriage or a horse and carriage. The sun is often depicted with rays. We have a thread running somewhere here with the small udenuki-no-ana holes near the edge of various tsuba, and I posted one with two rimmed holes, the relatively larger one in shinchu brass, the other in silver. 2 Quote
Spartancrest Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Kurikata said: as this one..... Ok - so how is it that we see the moon at all while the rain is pouring down? . . . invisible clouds or poetic license? Think about it. 1 hour ago, Bugyotsuji said: A full moon on the other hand seems to go with clouds Bruno's tsuba forgot the clouds - it would have made more sense with a break in the clouds rather than a clear sky and pouring rain. Art, it doesn't have to make sense. Beautiful piece nonetheless! 2 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 Dale, there is another expression that the Japanese love, which is 見え隠れ mie-kakure (glimpses), a sort of "now you see it, now you don't". 4 Quote
Stephen Posted September 5, 2023 Author Report Posted September 5, 2023 Watched a lovely little Japanese movie that delt with the family moon gazing. Some nice lines as explained above. 1 Quote
1kinko Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 More geese flying at night and a haiku on the back. 3 5 Quote
1kinko Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 Here’s the best part, the back. 2 3 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted September 5, 2023 Report Posted September 5, 2023 "The first goose comes flying..." This is the scout, apparently, checking that all is safe. 1 Quote
Stephen Posted September 7, 2023 Author Report Posted September 7, 2023 @$35 10 hours to No fuchi lone goose 8:30 pm fully dark out I can hear them flying south 2 1 Quote
vajo Posted September 7, 2023 Report Posted September 7, 2023 They fly in the morning from sleeping places to their food places and in the evening back. 1 1 Quote
Ed Posted September 10, 2023 Report Posted September 10, 2023 Living along the Mississippi flyway I can tell you the geese do fly at night, seen it many times. Perhaps more on a moonlit night, but I have heard them overhead when I could not see them. I don't think navigating is more difficult for them in dark than daylight. It has more to do with some innate knowledge they are born with and perhaps the magnetic poles than day/night. Though many are, not all moon scenes are combined with clouds. See the Ariyoshi I posted, moon no clouds. I have several more "moon" Tsuba / Tosogu. Digging them out is the issue. Here is one more. 4 2 Quote
Stephen Posted September 11, 2023 Author Report Posted September 11, 2023 (edited) Is that for sale Ed? PS never mind found sold on your website. 😫 Edited September 11, 2023 by Stephen Add sold Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 In both Mito and Den Kaneiye the moon is a prominent subject. I have a few. My favorite came back from Japan via Dick Dodge through Elliott and Bob Haynes. 3 1 Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 I’ve actually put this Kaneiye tribute piece up on eBay but probably priced it out of treasure hunters’ interest range. 4 Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 This Mito piece with the moon just peeking down on the rabbit in the garden is something I picked up a few years ago in lieu of being able to attend the San Francisco show. 5 1 Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 Another Mito piece, Moon and Crane above the waves, which I posted here a few years ago in a different discussion thread. 5 1 Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 A soft metal piece I picked up at the Minneapolis show in 2016. The seller thought it was Mito but I believe it will eventually prove to be an Ono Kinko piece. 3 Quote
Shirogitsune Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 And if we’re going to talk about the tsuba we pine for, then the one I want is the deer and moon tsuba by Natsuo in the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, even though the moon is on the Ura. 3 3 Quote
Ed Posted September 26, 2023 Report Posted September 26, 2023 Found a couple of additional moon themed tsuba. This one by Kuniharu with a moon barely peeking over the horizon. . 7 Quote
Stephen Posted September 26, 2023 Author Report Posted September 26, 2023 Little bottom feeding coming 3 Quote
Ed Posted September 26, 2023 Report Posted September 26, 2023 Here is one you will like. Cormorant fisherman, fishing under the moon and with a torch. Great detail, note the cormorant tossing the fish into the air before swallowing it. 3 4 Quote
rematron Posted September 26, 2023 Report Posted September 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ed said: Cormorant fisherman, fishing under the moon and with a torch. I like this. Fire seems to be an uncommon rendering unless it's shown in conjunction with a deity or mythical beast such as a kirin. 4 Quote
Ed Posted September 26, 2023 Report Posted September 26, 2023 Yes, I have seen few if any outside the parameters you mentioned. 2 1 Quote
Kurikata Posted September 27, 2023 Report Posted September 27, 2023 Another Tsuki ni Ko-Mori (moon and bat) 6 Quote
Spartancrest Posted September 27, 2023 Report Posted September 27, 2023 Have you seen this one? Bones in the stream under a crescent moon. https://www.jauce.com/auction/g1107835756 It is what is on the omote side that is spooky - Bats from Bruno and now Skulls - we must be getting close to Halloween time! And talking of Halloween, the moon will have a waxing crescent on October 31 not unlike this tsuba! 5 Quote
Stephen Posted September 28, 2023 Author Report Posted September 28, 2023 Are the same listing on yahoo auction. Never cared for jauce Quote
Ed Posted September 28, 2023 Report Posted September 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, Stephen said: Are the same listing on yahoo auction. Never cared for jauce https://page.auction.../auction/g1107835756 1 Quote
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