WW2 Japanese Gendaito Gunto Katana Signed Noshu Taniguchi Yoshikane tsukuru kore,

[Swords]

 

This is not an arsenal sword! It is oil quenched giving it this gorgeous stunning hamon 

It is folded using Tamahagane and other metals  It is In full polish by Woodrow Hall  a known polisher 

( I added a note from the polisher )

 

I’m offering 2900 + 100.00 shipping includes insurance  

 

I you need additional pictures or information let me know 

Steve

 

 

 

 

 

[John C]

5 hours ago, Swords said:

This is not an arsenal sword! It is oil quenched giving it this gorgeous stunning hamon 

Steven:

Did you mean to say oil quenched? From the pictures, it looks like it may have some nie.

Can you see any in person?

John C.

[Stephen]

11 hours ago, John C said:

Steven:

Did you mean to say oil quenched? From the pictures, it looks like it may have some nie.

Can you see any in person?

John C.

The hard peeks would make me think oil. It is well done tho.

[Swords]

John Quote me if I’m wrong   I’m not sure what you mean about the nie so will try and explain best I can

 

 It was folded in the traditional sense using a mixture of metal and tamahagane

thus giving it this stunning hada 

 

Its been listed before and many people gave their opinions but the nei was never brought up

I know you already know this but I find it easier for me to go over the process  

Thanks for bringing this up 

 

Steve

 

 

 

 

[Brian]

Steve,
We are just trying to clarify if you meant water quenched (fully traditionally made) or, as you wrote above... oil quenched, (used on non Gendaito)
Or it could be a hybrid, forged and folded but oil quenched.

[Swords]

Yes Brian it was in the description and should hav taken it out my mistake 

 

It makes me mad since I originally bought this sword from someone who is high up the chain in the sword industry and was in his description 

[Swords]

Ok Brian Thanks for pointing that out

I should have read your last sentence 

Your correct you can say it’s  a hybrid  Forged folded and oil quenched rather than water quenched 

 

[John C]

5 hours ago, Swords said:

I’m not sure what you mean about the nie

Steve:

Here is a good description and example of nie. You can see in the oval what looks like "bubbles from boiling water." These are martensite crystals that are formed during the heat treat. They tend, however, to be abundant with water quenching while very few (if any) when oil quenched. You should be able to see that with blade in hand.

John C. 

[ROKUJURO]

Blades made from TAMAHAGANE cannot be quenched in oil as this cooling medium is too slow to allow martensite to form. On the other hand, modern steel alloys have to be quenched less rapidly (so oil is used), otherwise there would be a high risk of cracks. Oil quenching an industrial steel does not produce NIE, but sometimes a fine NIOI-like structure.

[lonely panet]

better photos would be a added help to selling your sword,  its been on the market for a long time now. 

[Swords]

23 hours ago, Stephen said:

The photos were taken with a camera

my phone won’t be as good However I can try to get some 

I will also check for the nie 

 

 

it As far as Tamahagane Woody thinks it is and I’m not going to dispute any of his comments 

Because I get different answers from others it may effect the sale of my sword 

 

I didn’t want this sword to be a long lengthy discussion That is why I listed it on the sell auction site unless of course there are persons who are interested in buying !

Don’t get me wrong! I do appreciate correcting me for mistakes I made

And thanks for additional information and positive feedback 

 

 

Steve

 

 

 

[Swords]

I have new information about my sword.  It is indeed A Gendaito water forged made with tamahagane 

 

Oil quench swords with modern  or machine metal cannot be polished as this one was Having a lower quality metal

It would be very glass like finished and a lot of scratches

 

It would also not have a grain structure as as shown on this sword 

 

Having said that I’m relisting this sword as Gendaito forged  with  water and made with tamahagane 

 

Steve

 

[David Flynn]

Not true, of course oil tempered swords can be polished.   What you claim about Glassy and Scratches, only depends on who polished it.   I have seen several polished Showa To.  However,  it's not a viable option if one wants to recoup ones money.   I believe this sword is a perfect example.

[vajo]

It looks stunning. No matter what it is. Good Sword and a beautiful example.

[Brian]

8 hours ago, David Flynn said:

Not true, of course oil tempered swords can be polished.   What you claim about Glassy and Scratches, only depends on who polished it.   I have seen several polished Showa To.  However,  it's not a viable option if one wants to recoup ones money.   I believe this sword is a perfect example.

I expect this was a quote from the polisher.
Lotta talking about this sword. Back and forth, it's like it's cursed.
Personally, I think it's a nice sword. It is likely forged and folded, maybe using a few elements that are not fully traditional like some added steel and techniques, but well done and then water quenched, making it one of those Gendaito that sits on the fringes. Perfectly legit, nice hamon and hada. In good polish. No need to really discuss it to death.

[Swords]

My fault for not explaining it right

I was referring to oil quenched using modern steel or machine made swords 

Oil quenched can be polished But by using natural stones and because there glassy it would leave alot of scratches 

That said my sword is not made with lower quality steel! It was was traditional made using better steel 
Im by far no expert! I  am trying to explain the best I can 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Swords]

Flynn I think you should become a polisher since you already know so much about it