Bruce Pennington Posted August 25, 2023 Report Posted August 25, 2023 Yes. I don't know the lingo, but that is quite an interesting hamon! Quote
Beater Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 (edited) Any stamps above or below the mei Pippo? 23rd generation Kanefusa used some interesting forging techniques, including the kabuse method. I used to own one that had a large stamp with lots of small kanji inside, situated below the mei, it effectively said made by the kabuse method. I believe it was a similar method to how Mantetsu swords were made ie by inserting a soft metal core inside a harder skin pipe? Agree, that is a nice hamon. https://www.Japanese...dex.com/kanefusa.htm Edited August 26, 2023 by Beater Add a hyperlink to more info Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 Hard to tell from one photo but the peaks of the Hamon look like oil tempering. 1 1 Quote
Guest Simon R Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 I trust John's evaluation of oil tempering implicitly because he is an expert on these blades and it is still all too easy for me to get confused as to what is actually what! For example, the 23rd generation Fujiwara Kanefusa (real name Kato Koichi) was trained by Fuijiwara Jumyo (real name Kato Zennosuke) of the Watanabe Kanenaga school in Mino. As they shared the same family name, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that they were related by more than just their forging background. Both apparently made Showato and Gendaito. The photo below shows (Top) a blade by the 25th generation Fujiwara Kanefusa undergoing the process of yakiire, (Middle) my blade by Fujiwara Jumyo which has been papered by the NTHK and NBTHK in turn and (Bottom) the blade under review in this thread. Those dark, 'V shaped' marks in the hamon still throw me for a loop.🤔 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 Simon if you trust what I say then I have a genuine bridge for sale....! Regardless he is known for making both real Gendaito and stamped Showato so always worth double checking the blade carefully. Quote
Guest Simon R Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said: Simon if you trust what I say then I have a genuine bridge for sale....! Regardless he is known for making both real Gendaito and stamped Showato so always worth double checking the blade carefully. If the bridge has a goat eating troll underneath, then I'll buy it. 😉 Quote
John C Posted August 26, 2023 Report Posted August 26, 2023 5 hours ago, SRDRowson said: Those dark, 'V shaped' marks in the hamon still throw me for a loop I know nothing of forging so I'll ask since this has confused me as well. Although the V marks are a result of applying the clay, would they look differently based on the method of cooling? Or is the color difference simply a product of the rate of cooling? John C. Quote
Pippo Posted August 27, 2023 Author Report Posted August 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Beater said: Any stamps above or below the mei Pippo? 23rd generation Kanefusa used some interesting forging techniques, including the kabuse method. I used to own one that had a large stamp with lots of small kanji inside, situated below the mei, it effectively said made by the kabuse method. I believe it was a similar method to how Mantetsu swords were made ie by inserting a soft metal core inside a harder skin pipe? Agree, that is a nice hamon. https://www.Japanese...dex.com/kanefusa.htm No stamps sadly. Quote
Guest Simon R Posted August 27, 2023 Report Posted August 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Pippo said: No stamps sadly. No stamps = GOOD!!! Its chances of being a traditionally made gendaito have now increased. https://www.Japanese...dex.com/kanefusa.htm Quote
Guest Simon R Posted August 27, 2023 Report Posted August 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, mecox said: Simon, Kanefusa summarised here: Thank you Mal, This exemplary work of yours has already become a 'Seki-bible' to me! Quote
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