brentlewiis Posted August 22, 2023 Report Posted August 22, 2023 Hello friends, I acquired a tsuba a while back and am interested in what others might think. I believe the mei is that of Yanagawa Naoharu. The examples of that school/artist’s work that I’ve seen have mostly been in soft metals with amazingly fine nanako. This one seemed atypical in having a plain iron ground. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted August 22, 2023 Report Posted August 22, 2023 The photo is out of focus, but I think it reads indeed NAOHARU. Quote
Ed Posted August 22, 2023 Report Posted August 22, 2023 You should take the time to get photos that are in focus when you want help. Additionally orienting them correctly would be a courtesy. You tsuba is signed Yanagawa Naoharu. The legitimacy of the mei is questionable. Quote
brentlewiis Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Posted August 22, 2023 My apologies for the discourtesy of my poor photography, and the mis-orientation of the products thereof. These failures notwithstanding, perhaps one could share one’s reasoning for finding the legitimacy of the mei questionable? 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 6 hours ago, brentlewiis said: perhaps one could share one’s reasoning for finding the legitimacy of the mei questionable? Great question Lucian, evidence is always better than speculation! 2 Quote
brentlewiis Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Posted August 23, 2023 The software rotated all the images 90 deg. clockwise. Don’t known why. Quote
brentlewiis Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Posted August 23, 2023 Seems to me that rather a large issue has been raised by questioning the legitimacy of the mei. Perhaps one could be prevailed upon to share one’s reasoning? I would much prefer an informed discussion. Quote
brentlewiis Posted August 23, 2023 Author Report Posted August 23, 2023 The research I’ve done indicates that the mei compares favorably with those found on known good examples. I didn’t see any of the usual indicators of gimei. I bought it for a pittance, because I liked it and thought it had merit. Not because I necessarily believed it to be Yanagawa school work. Is the school of such standing that applying a false signature would result in a return on investment greater than the effort required to effect the deception? Quote
rkg Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 Hi, I did a quick check on Haynes, and there was only one yanagawa guy that signed this way, so I think its this one: your mei pic is kind of blurry, but it doesn't look particularly close to the reference ones to me - but That observation is probably worth what you paid for it - you can compare it to the piece in hand and see what you think. There are several mid-late Edo kinko that seemed to attract Really Good forgers - an example of this would be (ichinomiya) Nagatsune. There are a tremendous number of pieces that his gimei on them, and a lot of those mei are really really close to "known good" ones. I have no idea if it was a financial/fraud thing or if it was one of those objects every important family "had" to have an example of, but... Best, rkg (Richard George) 2 Quote
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