BIG Posted August 20, 2023 Report Posted August 20, 2023 https://www.e-nihont.../products/detail/816 Find Chidori bird any thoughts very welcome Best Quote
SteveM Posted August 20, 2023 Report Posted August 20, 2023 Not a chidori, but a cuckoo (時鳥 - hototogisu). Great-looking tsuba, great attribution. 4 Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 21, 2023 Report Posted August 21, 2023 Almost identical bird seen on the ura of a guard in the Brooklyn Museum https://www.brooklyn...ction/objects/120876 4 Quote
BIG Posted August 21, 2023 Author Report Posted August 21, 2023 Thanks Steve and Dale. Some thoughts about the „rain“?? Best Quote
SteveM Posted August 21, 2023 Report Posted August 21, 2023 Nothing about the rain raises any suspicion in me. The NBTHK paper states the tsuba theme of "cuckoo and rain", so presumably they thought it was fine. And its a Tokubetsu Hozon paper, so one supposes this was submitted and viewed twice by the NBTHK. The Kanzan hakogaki also looks OK to me. You think there is something suspicious about it? 1 Quote
BIG Posted August 21, 2023 Author Report Posted August 21, 2023 Nothing wrong with the rain.. the rain theme is very common on paintings and prints. Earthly is finite, was my first thought about, but it should be the welcome of first spring showers. https://artvee.com/dl/cuckoo-in-the-rain/ https://www.mutualar...94CD5EF7857B7E50FAA9 A poem too.. Quote
BIG Posted August 21, 2023 Author Report Posted August 21, 2023 The lovers lament poem on the Hiroshige print and the Tsuba theme fits.. https://chazen.wisc....-flying-in-the-rain/ Best Quote
Nobody Posted August 21, 2023 Report Posted August 21, 2023 There is a poem composed by Takahashi no Mushimaro in Man’yoshu. I think it is the origin of the theme. The poem expresses a cuckoo sadly flying and chirping on rainy night. The motif is cuckoo’s loneliness, because it was a brood parasite, and it does not know its real parents. Ref. Man'yōshū - Wikipedia Ref. Takahashi no Mushimaro - Wikipedia 1 1 3 Quote
BIG Posted August 21, 2023 Author Report Posted August 21, 2023 Thanks for the Takahashi No Mushimaro poem, thats the theme.. Quote
FlorianB Posted August 22, 2023 Report Posted August 22, 2023 Peter, the hototogisu is connected with the summer season in which heavy rainfalls are common. Furthermore there could also be an allusion to the Ise Monogatari. In chapter 43 the cocoo symbolizes infidelity in love. Best, Florian 1 Quote
BIG Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Posted August 22, 2023 Danke dir Florian. Best Regards Quote
thutson Posted August 22, 2023 Report Posted August 22, 2023 Lovely looking tsuba Peter, I have a tsuba along the same theme. The Takahashi No Mushimaro poem certainly seems to be the theme. I've read that the lonley cuckoo often calls in the dark of summer nights, the call is said to sound like someone calling "return home". I realise there is no moon on your tsuba but I have also read that the Japanese cuckoo is often shown flying across the face of the moon on a rainy night. This image signifies honor and advancement in status, and refers to the story of the samurai Yorimasa defeating the Nue. As Yorimasa was being awarded, a cuckoo flew overhead calling in the night. 2 1 Quote
BIG Posted August 22, 2023 Author Report Posted August 22, 2023 Hi Tom its not my tsuba. The only Naotane / Yoshitane TH Tsuba I found.. Thank you for sharing. Here we have a nice Haiku by Taniguchi Denjo ( 1713-1779 ) Cukoo call- One evening, into the heart the rain falls and Bessho Makiko wrote the Paul Verlaine verse: Il pleut dans mon cceur / Comme il pleut sur la ville.. / It rains into my heart / like it rains on the city.. from the book HAIKU Gedichte aus fünf Jahrhunderten Reclam Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 23, 2023 Report Posted August 23, 2023 There is a bird and crescent moon tsuba in the Walters Art Museum https://art.thewalte...d-clouds/#item-modal The crescent moon is large and under the bird so it might represent the moon reflected on water. They describe the bird as a Hawk but that is open to your own interpretation. 2 1 Quote
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