Signed Shingen-Tsuba

[Brian]

There are four distinct forms listed under this category which cannot be described here save to say that in each case they are decorated with wire laced or inlaid in the iron.

Can you not recognise a generalization when you see it? Would you prefer they wrote "There are four distinct forms listed under this category which cannot be described here save to say that in each case they are decorated with wire laced or inlaid in the base material, which in pretty much most cases is iron, although in some cases there is no iron, but it isn't important enough to dwell on here, but please note that although we say iron, we don't mean that every case has to be iron, so please don't take this literally."

Does that sound better?

I have said before that this isn't a game of who gets the last say. Get back on topic and stop haggling over petty issues.

 

Brian

[Thierry BERNARD]

Hi

 

some pictures that show the core of this kind of tsuba!!

[kusunokimasahige]

A mukade tsuba :

 

 

In the text on the site which was posted about the "Shingen" type Tsuba, the following was mentioned :

 

 

"There are a few examples of this type of tsuba that supposedly originated from the Famous warlord Takeda Shingen. One story is that Takeda Shingen wrapped brass wire around a iron sukashi tsuba while waiting patiently before a major battle. Supposedly this kept him calm and focused and able to react and think in a clear manner when it counted. Because of this practice of his, many of his supporters followed in his actions and made these tsuba as well. Apparently"

 

Now my question is, in what historical literature/primary source is there any mentioning of this tale ? Or should we just put it in folklore, folk-tales or old wives tales ? I would like to know what historical "proof" there is that Takeda Shingen ever did such things.

 

KM

[reinhard]

Are we slowly drifting into the arena of the unwell again?

 

reinhard

[kusunokimasahige]

Not at all, it is out of historical interest that i ask this question. I quite like the design of these Tsuba, as well as the centipede design... but since there were some Tsuba which apparently were signed : To the taste of Takeda Shingen, it sparked my curiosity to the actual story and where it was written down.

 

Thats all.

 

KM