Shinsaku Osoraku Tanto - how to classify this hamon type/style?

[2devnul]

Hello everyone,

 

I'm having difficulties in classifying this Tanto's hamon type/style. My first impression is Juka/Saka-Choji, but I would like to ask for second opinion.

What is the pattern style/type or what could haven been the intention of the smith/polisher? 

Thank you very much for all the comments!

 

[NewB]

Hello

 

There's something really odd about the blade and hamon. Not sure whether it's the light or acid treatment but it is strange

 

Y

[Nobody]

It does not look like osorakuzukuri.

Where is its yokote?

[DoTanuki yokai]

Looks non-Japanese to me, who is the smith ? 

[2devnul]

Hello,

 

I only know that polishing was done in Poland. I will not mention gentlemen's name as I don't want to give any bad fame to him.

I'm attaching more pictures including signature. As far as I know blade was purchased on Ebay, shipped from Japan in raw (no polish) state. Koshirae was made locally in Poland. 

 

 

 

[Geraint]

Dear Adam.

 

It is perhaps the polish that has changed this from osoraku zukuri to something else, I think I can see a spot on the shinogi where the yokote ought to be but it's clearly been ignored by the polisher.

 

Some swords do have hamon that can be labelled as one thing or another, many have hamon that can best be described as a combination of features.  Here is one from Aoi Art. "Nie Deki, wide Suguha, deep Nioikuchi. In Ha, there are many Sunagashi, Kinsuji and Yo. Boshi is Midarekomi Hakikake style."  

 

All the best.

[SteveM]

Smith's name is Masatoshi 正壽　(using a semi-simplified version of 壽)

Could be the gendai (present-day) smith who made the sword in the link below.

https://www.e-sword....tantou/2310-3035.htm

 

[2devnul]

  On 8/9/2023 at 5:02 PM, SteveM said:

Smith's name is Masatoshi 正壽　(using a semi-simplified version of 壽)

Could be the gendai (present-day) smith who made the sword in the link below.

https://www.e-sword....tantou/2310-3035.htm

 

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Hello,

 

This is interesting Steve, thank you very much for your research. It is possible, as tanto was sold via Ebay by 'famouse' Japanese dealer "Komonjo"/"Miki Yamaguchi" (you might know him). 

 

I think that maybe smith wasn't happy with his work. That is why sword went for auction without polish and lower price via Mr. Komonjo. The polisher in Poland for sure took (grinded) a bit from the blade as it is quiet thin for Osoraku type (at least IMHO). Unfortunately I don't have any pictures on how it looked before the polish. 

 

Could it be that they way hamon looks now is polisher (chemical?) work? And that originally it was (intended) to be different? 

[Jon]

  On 8/10/2023 at 7:30 AM, 2devnul said:

sold via Ebay by 'famouse' Japanese dealer "Komonjo"/"Miki Yamaguchi"

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Hi for interest what eBay shop would this be ?

[2devnul]

  On 8/10/2023 at 11:12 AM, Jon said:

Hi for interest what eBay shop would this be ?

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https://www.ebay.com/str/komonjo