type 32 sword very low serial number

[kotengu]

I am 99% sure I have the blade of type 32 with a serial number in the 400's. The hilt is gone, Scaberd may match, maybe in the 1000's, hard to read...  Assuming this is true, is it the oldest blade found?  Does it have real value or is it just very cool...  

[Bruce Pennington]

It's pretty darn low!  But don't know anyone tracking these, unless @Kiipu is.  Otherwise it would take a Search of NMB and checking each thread to find out.

[lonely panet]

All numbers under 10,000

Are considered to be the first or 2nd year production.

 Tho desirable to some. If mismatched not valuable 

[kotengu]

Thank you,

 

the sword is # 401

I suspect it's the first few weeks...  Does anyone know the lowest-numbered one found?

 

The scabbard is # 9664. 

[lonely panet]

I believe Dawsons has the prototype or something such like

[kotengu]

  On 7/7/2023 at 4:07 AM, lonely panet said:

I believe Dawsons has the prototype or something such like

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Thank you.

[Kiipu]

Post a picture of the serial number and provide the blade length, which will be one of the two below.  Measure from the hilt to the tip of the blade.

甲 Blade Length:  832mm  32.75”.

乙 Blade length:  774mm  30.5”.

[Bruce Pennington]

Good point, Thomas.

 

@kotengu Isen (is that a name?)  Good to know if we have a number for the "KO" or "OTSU" line of swords.  And frankly - we would all LOVE to see some photos!!!

[kotengu]

 

its a 30.5. 

I have other examples of both versions.

 

Its in a Frankenstein wooden tsuba hilt, a clever design really, that has room for the locking mechanism, with original screws I believe..., I might wrap it and call it a day, 

but is there a source of replica hilts?   I need two fyi...

 

below is a photo. 

 

I read that the earlier models had a problem getting stuck in the sheath occasionally so models after were made a little thinner at the base of the blade?  I can't confirm this as I lost the page... 

 

Someone also sharpened it very well, held the bevel and it's much sharper than my other two... 

 

i like it.

 

[Kiipu]

  On 7/3/2023 at 2:54 AM, kotengu said:

Assuming this is true, is it the oldest blade found? 

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Yes, the previous low 乙 [otsu] was serial number 1032 via Japanese Military and Civil Swords and Dirks by F&G.

 

For additional information about the Type 32 Military Sword, see Nick's WRF thread below.

How the Type 32 Sword was born

[kotengu]

It's my first world record...

 

very satisfying.

 

[kotengu]

A photo of the old guy...

[kotengu]

  On 7/8/2023 at 3:54 PM, Kiipu said:

 

Yes, the previous low 乙 [otsu] was serial number 1032 via Japanese Military and Civil Swords and Dirks by F&G.

 

For additional information about the Type 32 Military Sword, see Nick's WRF thread below.

How the Type 32 Sword was born

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Thank you! Good read as well. I am slightly vain, how does one share that this sword exists?

[kotengu]

  On 7/7/2023 at 6:22 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

Good point, Thomas.

 

@kotengu Isen (is that a name?)  Good to know if we have a number for the "KO" or "OTSU" line of swords.  And frankly - we would all LOVE to see some photos!!!

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Bruce, it is a name...

[BANGBANGSAN]

  On 7/8/2023 at 7:12 PM, kotengu said:

A photo of the old guy...

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Can you post more photos of this sword? Full blade, scabbard,number, etc.Thank you!

[lonely panet]

from what i see,  is just a relic.  no value in my opinion.  

being a machine made war item, i personally would say its almost worthless.  would you pay much for a buggered bayonet??

 

[Bruce Pennington]

Lacking a better place to post this, for those who wonder if the Type 32 was used much during WWII, look at the pile of them under this guys legs!

 

[kotengu]

  On 7/10/2023 at 7:05 AM, lonely panet said:

from what i see,  is just a relic.  no value in my opinion.  

being a machine made war item, i personally would say its almost worthless.  would you pay much for a buggered bayonet??

 

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In a way, it pleases me that it's not worth much to the world (with a tear in my as I wave good-by to my retirement plan). 

I enjoy it and that it is the lowest one,  I won't have to sell it for fear of a home invasion.  

 

Below are more photos of the clunker... Begining to figure out this website.  The white wrap was from before I got it.

 

And I have bought a beat-to-hell bayonet, perhaps for it's tired beaten body and it's stories that I will never know.    

 

Thank you for your wisdom.

 

Isen

 

 

[kotengu]

  On 7/10/2023 at 2:34 PM, Bruce Pennington said:

Lacking a better place to post this, for those who wonder if the Type 32 was used much during WWII, look at the pile of them under this guys legs!

 

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I could use two of those handles. Very cool Bruce.

[kotengu]

  On 7/9/2023 at 11:36 PM, BANGBANGSAN said:

Can you post more photos of this sword? Full blade, scabbard,number, etc.Thank you!

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I did below/above.  I can keep shooting it if you want more.  scabbard has been banged a bit. Not matching  # 9664.  I dig the remnant brown paint...

[BANGBANGSAN]

  On 7/10/2023 at 10:24 PM, kotengu said:

I did below/above.  I can keep shooting it if you want more.  scabbard has been banged a bit. Not matching  # 9664.  I dig the remnant brown paint...

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Cool, please post some photos of the scabbard as well. thank you!

[lonely panet]

If your willing to put in the time. Sesrch ebay for a handle. Because no numbers match it wond devalue it further. Just try and find a dated knuckle guard to early taisho or meiji. But the latter will be hard