kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 Hi to our French NMB members Can someone translate this tsuba identity label? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 Interesting! I can read about 95% of that but two or three points are unclear. To get the ball rolling… Guessing that Marou = maru Époque = Age/Period Muromashi = Muromatchi/Muromachi Fer = iron Japon = Japan Amida yasuri (rays) At bottom, “Probably representing two measuring boxes, ‘Masu’ in Japanese.” Provenance, Belles, 1971(?) 2 Quote
xiayang Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 Piers already got most of it. The last sentence is: D'après M. Antoine-Funakoshi cela représenterait peut-être des décors de dessins de cloisons coulissantes séparant 2 pièces. According to M. Antoine-Funakoshi this might represent the decorations drawn on the sliding partitions that separate two rooms. 1 1 Quote
kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 Many thanks So Mid Muromachi 1410 - 1490 Late Muromachi 1490 - 1568 No school stated Any guesses on school and date? I suppose it should now go onto the tosogu page Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 It says 18th c, crossed out, then 16th c, then (?). The first attribution above of ‘windows in negative sukashi’ may be the best description. I’m thinking that temple windows and Amida yasuri might go well together. The other (unlikely) possibility is of two fire striking irons, hi-utchi-gané 火打金. Or tamaté-bako lady’s vanity boxes. Quote
vajo Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 I have some Tsuba from the Paul Coninck collection. That was sold by Trudel Klefisch (Auction House several years ago). You can search in the Van Ham Auction catalogues for him. https://www.van-ham.com/fileadmin/Redaktion/Auktionen/Katalog_PDF/A347_Asiatische Kunst.pdf 1 Quote
kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 Hi Chris I agree it is shown as Soten but it's nothing like the Soten examples I've seen before Mine wasn't in that auction but another one I own is P200 T533 I don't expect you have the selling price for this tsuba I had this on the NMB some time ago as I had no idea for the design A translation describes it thus: Stirrups and Masashino grass so that was something new but no idea about Masahino grass Quote
kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 I found this Stirrups and Masashino grass. The Stirrups of Musashi refers to a book reporting the Great fire of Meireki in 1657 (according to "Tsuba - Kodōgu Gadai Jiten" by Numata Kenji). Part of the description says that from *ancient times Abumi were made for the aristocracy in the Musashi area. Shows good linear tekkotsu on the rim Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 武蔵野 Musashino… (dew etc.) in the long grasses of Musashino 1 Quote
vajo Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 I found this "..a round iron tsuba with pierced abstract design, shakudo rim." Christies Auction 2017 Thats a job for Dale 1 Quote
kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 I have described it as two boxes Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 27, 2023 Report Posted June 27, 2023 The ‘identity label’ looks as if he was recording people’s opinions as he heard them, without being sure himself. Quote
kissakai Posted June 27, 2023 Author Report Posted June 27, 2023 Makes sense I think 1750ish and maker unknown Hopefully someone may see something similar Quote
dimitri Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 Hello, you have translate everything good. Just after Muromachi period, in parenthese it is written expo Soten for Soten exhibition. You are doing well in French 😉🙂 1 Quote
kissakai Posted June 28, 2023 Author Report Posted June 28, 2023 That's interesting about Soten exhibition but wonder what it relates too Quote
dimitri Posted June 28, 2023 Report Posted June 28, 2023 The provenance is strange "Belles 1971", you should know the name crossed out, it looks like Jean at the end but not sure, maybe with this clue you can find the catalog of the collection who knows. Quote
Kurikata Posted June 29, 2023 Report Posted June 29, 2023 "Belles 1971" is BRUXELLES 1971 as De CONNINCK was a Belgian collector (not French) . 1 1 Quote
PietroParis Posted June 29, 2023 Report Posted June 29, 2023 The main problem here is deciphering the handwriting... I think that the first word after "SUJET" is "ajouré", which as far as I understand is the word used in French for sukashi. 1 1 Quote
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