Wartime smith Tadayoshi?

[Brian]

Hi all,
Trying to help someone locally with a sword. Is this Tadayoshi? 忠義
And does it appear to be a wartime smith? Unfortunately I don't have better pics, but blade is poor and out of polish. I assume Showato.

Thanks.

 

[Ray Singer]

Is indeed signed Tadayoshi saku. Unsure which showa smith this is. 

[Bruce Pennington]

Sesko has 2 Showa Takayoshi, but not with that 'yoshi' kanji.  Interesting possibility is one from the Genroku era (1688-1704):

TADAYOSHI (忠善・忠義), Genroku (元禄, 1688-1704), Owari – “Wakasa no Kami Fujiwara Tadayoshi Bishū ni oite kore o saku” (若狭守藤原忠善於尾州作之, “made by Wakasa no Kami Fujiwara Tadayoshi in Owari province”), he came originally from Mino but studied later under Wakasa no Kami Ujiyoshi (若狭守氏善) in Owari, he signed his name also with the characters (忠義)

[Brian]

Yeah, I'm also battling a bit with finding a WW2 smith with those kanji. Going to move to the military section, see if we come up with anyone. I'm not sure it looks like a pre-war sword, but it's possible.
Thanks all, let's see.

Brian

[Alex A]

Looks slender, maybe its one of those tourist pieces from the end of the Edo period.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Two Tadayoshi Gendai smiths noted:

 

川島 忠善 (Kawashima Tadayoshi I)

 

Suzuki Tadayoshi (RJT)

 

[cisco-san]

Hello,

 

sorry to reopen this old thread but I have a question concerning Suzuki Tadayoshi.

A friend offered me a blade which is signed Yamato (no) kuni Tadayoshi (大和国忠義) and dated Showa 17, 4th month lucky day (April 1942).

Chris Bowen told me that the only smith, he is aware of,  who signed with 忠義 is Suzuki Tadayoshi.

But unfortunately he has no more information about this smith available.

 

Therefore, I kindly ask if anybody (maybe @PNSSHOGUN) has some information about this smith.

 

 

Many thanks in advance.

Klaus

 

 

[cisco-san]

Hello,

 

I almost can´t believe, that nobody here has some information about the smith Suzuki Tadayoshi

 

many thanks

Klaus

[Bruce Pennington]

Sadly, for those of us who study them, we see this often.  There were almost 500 smiths working during the war, and it seems that the lists, of any kind, usually only have about 300 names.  That leaves 100-200 smiths that are not found on lists.  

 

If anyone can find them, it would be @george trotter and @mecox.  If they can't, I'd say there's nothing to be found.

[george trotter]

Had a look through the books Klaus but I found nothing for a WWII era TADAYOSHI of Yamato no Kuni (Nara Prefecture), sorry...I too have a couple of unrecorded WWII smiths...a nuisance for sure!

Regards...

[Brendan campbell]

If the price of the sword is within his budget , buy it for what it is . I would . It has a nicely cut signature, if no flaws !!!

[Ray Singer]

7 hours ago, cisco-san said:

I almost can´t believe, that nobody here has some information about the smith Suzuki Tadayoshi

 

It is not that surprising, as there are many meikanmore smiths. However I am curious if there is any relation (in terms of lineage/descent) to the gendai knife maker Tadayoshi Seiichi, who signs his work 忠義作.

 

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=fd299e0f5b2672c9&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS954US954&sxsrf=ACQVn09DqrukaUKe_2Fh7YwLVVi-cyIzbQ:1712852157182&q="忠義青一"&uds=AMwkrPuChM3QNXggeGrmIi9L-QtM8HXDHFTacyR8J-RvA2Ynk3eViTtTQuEuigH12MhB84NAQdmyN8abTMqstnb-Z3lmnuBlNXP9ue8RJtl3o2FNJIo5D2JHQNUivKThXkym7UXY6oZIRTbx582B020REr7CVcwvrgNoydU3wJW_kRIwLz_xxRJEKpjiHey1VHFZD_MGScnwL0ADD1dpP1yrOtZNs1MHkj8Zxqdpy8jpnZNcYzYDYxEUTwbavfKq-bXxUEKsU1a75Ob-uWCsIFkrPZsDeVB6D9G92JjKDmdpL5hhGjsHWBBPRhaunpr9d6gALDuSeDgg&udm=2&prmd=ivsmnbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjitYbDx7qFAxV1RTABHQYzCbMQtKgLegQIDRAB&biw=1536&bih=799&dpr=2.5

[cisco-san]

16 hours ago, Ray Singer said:

 

It is not that surprising, as there are many meikanmore smiths. However I am curious if there is any relation (in terms of lineage/descent) to the gendai knife maker Tadayoshi Seiichi, who signs his work 忠義作.

 

https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=fd299e0f5b2672c9&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS954US954&sxsrf=ACQVn09DqrukaUKe_2Fh7YwLVVi-cyIzbQ:1712852157182&q="忠義青一"&uds=AMwkrPuChM3QNXggeGrmIi9L-QtM8HXDHFTacyR8J-RvA2Ynk3eViTtTQuEuigH12MhB84NAQdmyN8abTMqstnb-Z3lmnuBlNXP9ue8RJtl3o2FNJIo5D2JHQNUivKThXkym7UXY6oZIRTbx582B020REr7CVcwvrgNoydU3wJW_kRIwLz_xxRJEKpjiHey1VHFZD_MGScnwL0ADD1dpP1yrOtZNs1MHkj8Zxqdpy8jpnZNcYzYDYxEUTwbavfKq-bXxUEKsU1a75Ob-uWCsIFkrPZsDeVB6D9G92JjKDmdpL5hhGjsHWBBPRhaunpr9d6gALDuSeDgg&udm=2&prmd=ivsmnbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjitYbDx7qFAxV1RTABHQYzCbMQtKgLegQIDRAB&biw=1536&bih=799&dpr=2.5

good point @Ray Singer, many thanks!

I hope that I will see this blade in hand in May, latest June... and will of course post some pics.