Could it be what I think?

[GoldenDrachen]

Hello gentlemen

 

I am making attempts in my own judgements. 

Found this one. 

 

I knew I have seen similar motif in the books. Quick browsing brought up this

 

Although the composition is different, there are many similarities. ( Shape of the Suzumushi, this cutout  on the side of the seppa dai..)

Question is: Could be the first one Akasaka too?

 

Regards

 Vitaly 

[Infinite_Wisdumb]

Looks like it to me! Love the motif

[Spartancrest]

1 hour ago, GoldenDrachen said:

I knew I have seen similar motif in the books.

A thinner design like yours.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/thekevinz/  They have described it as Myochin/Miochin

 

Feelers are so thin I would be scared to breathe on them!

 

The Yahoo auction says the design is Aizu.  https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r1081411806

 

[GoldenDrachen]

16 minutes ago, Spartancrest said:

A thinner design like yours.  https://www.flickr.com/photos/thekevinz/  They have described it as Myochin/Miochin

 

Feelers are so thin I would be scared to breathe on them!

 

The Yahoo auction says the design is Aizu.  https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r1081411806

 

Hi Dale

 

Thank you for the link, very interesting tsuba there!

To me above tsuba is far more delicate. And design itself looks more archaic, older..

Any idea on the spiral?

The only thing that comes to my mind is young fern.

 

As per listing description, I , for some reason doubt that this is Aizu. But I have no experience in this and may be mistaking.

 

Regards

Vitaly 

[Spartancrest]

I have my doubts on Aizu and the thin one Miochin? - They are guesses at best, I can't translate the mei, perhaps that might give us a clue?  Then we just have to worry if the signature is authentic or added later!  Fern is likely - the 'grasses' usually seen with this design don't grow with that sort of unfolding curl.

[Bugyotsuji]

Not disagreeing, but I find a problem with suzumushi which one associates with autumn, and warabi or zenmai ferns symbolizing spring.

 

On the other hand I do not have much to offer instead, without doing a lookaround, but my first port of call would be to make sure there is no association with water. They sing in the cooler evenings. Then maybe the spiral design in sake cups... summer to autumn, a time to drink sake?

[Geraint]

Dear Dale.

 

In your first reply the tsuba you show is one made by Kevin Adams after a Myochin design.   

 

And just so you know the Yahoo link takes me to a page that tells me that this service is not available in the UK or the Eu.

 

Vitaly, I'm sure you know this site already but.....  https://www.shibuiswords.com/tsuba.htm

If you go to the Akasaka section you will see that tsuba by this group often give away their construction with visible lines on the edges of the plate and one or two other things to look out for.

 

It's very tempting to assume that similar designs must come from the same group but that is not always a good assumption.  

 

Keep up the good work.

 

All the best.

[ROKUJURO]

As Geraint wrote, famous AKASAKA design, but probably another (later) manufacture. The technique reminds me even a bit of AKAO. 

[Spartancrest]

11 hours ago, Geraint said:

Yahoo link takes me to a page that tells me that this service is not available in the UK or the Eu

Try these links - same tsuba sold by two different companies:  https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/r1081411806      https://www.jauce.com/auction/r1081411806

 

The same 'object code' can get you into other sites, just use the last section of the web address, just try cut and paste. [ /r1081411806  ]

I have the same problem some European and Asian sites won't open for me in Australia. [Nanny State?]