PNSSHOGUN Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 Impressive, so perhaps some of the myths and legends around great swords cutting through stone lanterns have some validity? You can see the sword he used is bent, there would also likely be many Hakobore. 3 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 Some kind of soft stone? Strike along a fault line? I posted a stone lantern cut through with a wakizashi about a year ago. 4 2 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 Why should anyone try this? What can be proved by such a test other than you have to choose your stone very carefully? I can use a toothbrush in a drillpress to show that frozen butter can be damaged! 3 2 Quote
Matsunoki Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 You can see the stone is a very soft friable material. Something akin to a chalk or soft limestone?I doubt granite would yield the same result!!. Pointless in my view. 3 Quote
Guest Simon R Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 Forgive my bluntness but, personally, I consider this sensei to be first and foremost a showman rather than a martial artist. He appears more concerned with breaking speed cutting records in the Guinness Book of Records and in stunts like this than in promoting classical swordsmanship. Quote
OceanoNox Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, SRDRowson said: Forgive my bluntness but, personally, I consider this sensei to be first and foremost a showman rather than a martial artist. He appears more concerned with breaking speed cutting records in the Guinness Book of Records and in stunts like this than in promoting classical swordsmanship. As far as I know, he did quit his old dojo to make his own school. He IS good and I will certainly never reach his cutting ability. At the same time, tameshigiri itself has been described by Nakayama Hakudo in particular as a means to an end, not the end itself. 3 Quote
DoTanuki yokai Posted March 8, 2023 Author Report Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, SRDRowson said: Forgive my bluntness but, personally, I consider this sensei to be first and foremost a showman rather than a martial artist… He can’t run around and kill people like Miyamoto Musashi did, so he took a route that is more acceptable in todays world. 1 3 Quote
raynor Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 One of my students did the same thing to a stone with his hand, it swelled up to double the size overnight and he was sheepish when I told him to go buy a hammer if he wants to keep breaking stones not use his hands.. not why we train, he was lucky he did not break his bones and no one has had to defend themselves against a stationary rock ever. Means to an end indeed! 2 1 Quote
Guest Simon R Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 30 minutes ago, DoTanuki yokai said: He can’t run around and kill people like Miyamoto Musashi did, so he took a route that is more acceptable in todays world. Yeah - and bent his sword. 🤣🤣🤣 Quote
Larason2 Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 It's true, I want to see the sword after! I hope he did it with a reproduction, and not a nihonto. 1 Quote
Fuuten Posted March 8, 2023 Report Posted March 8, 2023 Quote Folklore in Japan tells of a meeting between Yagyu Sekishusai and a tengu. A fight ensued and is said to be have been concluded by Sekishusai killing the tengu with a downwards cut that coincidentally split a large boulder in two, near Amanotateiwa Shrine in Yagyu. I knew it! Now if only Tengu turn out real too👺 5 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted March 9, 2023 Report Posted March 9, 2023 Pure theatrics. You can see the fault-line in the rock protrusion that he cuts off. I could have done the same thing with a small chisel and a hammer. 1 Quote
Guest Simon R Posted March 9, 2023 Report Posted March 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: Pure theatrics. You can see the fault-line in the rock protrusion that he cuts off. I could have done the same thing with a small chisel and a hammer. Good spot there, Bruce! And he STILL bent the sword. 🤣 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 10, 2023 Report Posted March 10, 2023 Tsurugata Yama Jinja, Kurashiki, April 2022. 1 Quote
1kinko Posted March 10, 2023 Report Posted March 10, 2023 Yeah Bruce- but could you have hit the mark with a sword? I could chisel it too, but it’s really unlikely I’d hit that fault line with a swing of the sword. More likely to cut my own leg on the bounce back. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted March 10, 2023 Report Posted March 10, 2023 Oh, I agree, I don’t question his skill. But on the topic of slicing a rock with a sword, I don’t think it would’ve worked as well if he had hit the rock anywhere else. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted March 10, 2023 Report Posted March 10, 2023 The guy was wearing body armo(u)r. Quote
mecox Posted March 10, 2023 Report Posted March 10, 2023 I agree with Bruce and also Colin earlier. Difficult to say what the rock is, but it does look like a fine grain sedimentary rock with a prominent bedding plane, that he hit on the top (we don't see that view). The colour, texture and the dull sound of the sword strike suggest maybe a chalky (carbonate) material (Colins comment). Also the rock mass appears to be weathered, which can also produce a clay mineral content. Certainly if it was an igneous rock like granite it would be a completely different story...maybe with a broken blade. But the whole exercise seems pointless......be of some value if the details of the blade were known and some before/after pics. 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 Looks like Machii-san was sneaking around our neighborhood last night!!! Saw this walking the dogs: OOPS, I take that back! I'm claiming that I split this rock with my Mantetsu!!! Didn't even scratch the blade, either! 1 3 Quote
Shuko Posted May 23, 2024 Report Posted May 23, 2024 On 3/10/2023 at 3:52 PM, mecox said: I agree with Bruce and also Colin earlier. Difficult to say what the rock is, but it does look like a fine grain sedimentary rock with a prominent bedding plane, that he hit on the top (we don't see that view). The colour, texture and the dull sound of the sword strike suggest maybe a chalky (carbonate) material (Colins comment). Also the rock mass appears to be weathered, which can also produce a clay mineral content. Certainly if it was an igneous rock like granite it would be a completely different story...maybe with a broken blade. But the whole exercise seems pointless......be of some value if the details of the blade were known and some before/after pics. the broken blade will be up on eBay soon ........................... 4 Quote
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