DRam Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 Hello, I'm new to the forum and collecting. Locally, there is a Tanto for sale. Not much info on it, apparently "19th Century". I have tried searching a number of data bases for any of the characters... I haven't had much luck. I have attached pictures, any assistance would be much appreciated. Thank you. il_1588xN.4692517305_6t1j.jpg.avif il_1588xN.4692416747_pfid.jpg.avif il_1588xN.4644173662_86l5.jpg.avif Quote
Ray Singer Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 Can you try a conventional file format such as jpg? At least on mobile, the images are not loading. Quote
DTM72 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 I'll give him a hand. I'll wait for others to chime in but things don't look right. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 6, 2023 Report Posted March 6, 2023 Chinese fake, one to avoid. http://www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html 3 Quote
DRam Posted March 7, 2023 Author Report Posted March 7, 2023 I have re-submitted as .jpeg. Apologies for that. Both Dan and Jon, thank you for the reply. I had a read the link you sent, what are the telltale signs that it is a fake? For my own education. Thanks again Quote
Brian Posted March 7, 2023 Report Posted March 7, 2023 Main thing is the shape. It's terrible. Absolutely horrid. As you get to see real Nihonto, things like this will jump out at you. No Japanese smith would make something so poorly shaped or finished. Nakago shape is completely wrong, as is the end of the tang. Hamon is fake too. Machi are totally wrong, and not lined up. Even if they were moved up as it appears, everything is still waaay off. Plus, any tanto sized blades with a shinogi line should be an immediate warning. 1 Quote
SteveM Posted March 7, 2023 Report Posted March 7, 2023 Inscription says 承応元年 (it's a date using the Japanese era system: Shō-ō gannen = 1652) Other side says 中船 (Nakafune). Presumably its the swordsmith's name, but there is no known swordsmith with that name. The shape is highly unusual for 1652. It almost looks like its been drastically shortened, or re-worked, but the inscription placement leads one to believe that the sword was more or less always this overall length. The blade length was shortened by moving the notches up. Just an odd-looking piece with an unlikely signature that comes from out of nowhere. (Nakafune would be a super-rare Japanese surname). Typed while Brian was posting his response, so some of this info is redundant to his post. 2 Quote
DRam Posted March 7, 2023 Author Report Posted March 7, 2023 Thank you for the info and explanation. Looks like I have a bunch of reading to do. Once again I appreciate the help, Devin Quote
DoTanuki yokai Posted March 11, 2023 Report Posted March 11, 2023 Just to add, the Mei was made with engraving tools and is not done with a swordsmiths chisel. 1 Quote
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