Barn find(final)

[Noah]

Here is the last of the pictures and I just want to give a big thanks to Brian and everyone else who helped me the past couple of days with figuring out what this is. I am so very thankful for your guys help. This has inspired me to maybe start a collection of my own. I have talked to my stepdad and we have decided that the next time we take a trip to San Francisco that we are gonna catch one of the NCJSC meetings and see what to do from there. We will probably get it polished and get its papers. Again thank you everybody and I will post pictures here when the sword is finished. 

[NewB]

Shinsa 

Polish

Love for the Ancestors

 

J.

[Stephen]

8 hours ago, NewB said:

Shinsa 

Polish

Love for the Ancestors

 

J.

Jon not necessarily in that order,😉

[NewB]

Fair

 

J.

[Gimmick]

After searching the forum I found that Gabriel L wrote about the vajra/kongo and horimono back in 2014. You might find it interesting.

 

[Jacques D.]

I'm afraid this sword seems gimei. Of course i can be wrong but I don't see the characteristic marks of this family.

[Bryce]

G'day Jacques,

What are the characteristic marks that you aren't seeing?

Cheers,

Bryce

[Guest Simon R]

'The Boy Who Cried Gimei'....

[Stephen]

What part of final is not?

[Baba Yaga]

“It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.”

 

-Rocky 

[drbvac]

Sideways again - be careful how many opinions you ask for and who is giving them - and ask more questions all the time and become able to make decisions yourself based on facts and learning.

[Jacques D.]

I shouldn't have brought up this topic because after thinking about it, I don't want to share this piece of knowledge. That said, there are some disturbing elements in the engraving of the mei and they are visible to all. Even the keisho seems different

[Bryce]

Thanks Jacques,

In the absence of more detailed images, my opinion is that the differences you highlighted are all well within the limits of variation I have seen in Sadakatsu's mei.

Cheers,

Bryce

[Guest Simon R]

I think the pertinent pages of someone's reference books may have got "stuck together" once again. 
 

(And, as the person in question so very often tells us, absolutely no credible information can be gleaned from mere photographs.)

[Jacques D.]

11 hours ago, Bryce said:

Thanks Jacques,

In the absence of more detailed images, my opinion is that the differences you highlighted are all well within the limits of variation I have seen in Sadakatsu's mei.

Cheers,

Bryce

For two swords that were supposed to be made together? And there are many other variations that I have not pointed out. This sword will have to be proven to be shoshin.

 

8 hours ago, SRDRowson said:

I think the pertinent pages of someone's reference books may have got "stuck together" once again. 
 

(And, as the person in question so very often tells us, absolutely no credible information can be gleaned from mere photographs.)

I don't care what you think and as far as hada and hamon are concerned, yes the pictures don't add anything, it's not the same for the mei which are clearly visible.

[Guest Simon R]

42 minutes ago, Jacques D. said:

For two swords that were supposed to be made together? And there are many other variations that I have not pointed out. This sword will have to be proven to be shoshin.

 

I don't care what you think and as far as hada and hamon are concerned, yes the pictures don't add anything, it's not the same for the mei which are clearly visible.

"This sword will have to be proven to be shoshin."

Wow, really? You mean like every big name sword?

 

"I don't care what you think..."

Fair enough comment. However, based on your predictable, knee-jerk call of "gimei" on the previous Kiyomaru, the NBTHK don't seem to care what you think either. 😘

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Jacques and his Golden Gimei Hammer.

[Jacques D.]

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However, based on your predictable, knee-jerk call of "gimei" on the previous Kiyomaru, the NBTHK don't seem to care what you think either.

I admitted my mistake and even used it as an example and once again what you say goes over my head at 12,000 feet

[John C]

On 3/3/2023 at 2:20 AM, Jacques D. said:

because after thinking about it, I don't want to share this piece of knowledge.

Jacques:

I'm really not trying to pile on here. But I, for one, am on this board to learn. If you have some knowledge, please share it without reservation.

Thank you,

John C.

[Shuko]

On 3/3/2023 at 4:02 AM, Baba Yaga said:

“It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward.”

 

-Rocky 

Until he sparred with Ernie Shavers for a film part. He told Ernie to hit him normally; result was a left hook that put Rocky in the bathroom spewing before he was carted off to hospital

[Baba Yaga]

3 hours ago, Shuko said:

Until he sparred with Ernie Shavers for a film part. He told Ernie to hit him normally; result was a left hook that put Rocky in the bathroom spewing before he was carted off to hospital

Ya, I read that. Hilarious! Good quote. 

[Stephen]

Can we get any farther off track?

[Shuko]

7 hours ago, Stephen said:

Can we get any farther off track?

Only a little way to go ..............................

[Guest Simon R]

[jesse]

Good job Clive, I am a big fan of the Far Side.

 

Warm Regards,