Plebejec Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Dear members, I am looking through this forum for few month and now I get courage to join this great forum and to start my own collection. I am looking for an advice because I would like to avoid big disappointment from first purchase and also its not cheap buy. I really tried to figure out if that tsuba is genuine I browse through web and this forum to find information that can help me determine it. From what I red Nakago on the the bottom should be horizontal and shouldn't be into V shape so that's good sign for me and cast tsuba should have some rim inside Kozuka and also I should have been able to see some bubbles on surface so I believe that this tsuba is genuine but I really want validate my opinion with experienced collectors. If I misunderstand any of that advises please correct me. Seller provide that tsuba with this info: PERIOD: Edo DIMENSIONS: 70 mm x 67 mm x 4 mm NAKAGO: 28 mm x 7 mm ( thickness 4 mm ) Any feedback is much appreciate. I hope this tsuba will be wonderful start of my collection. PS: English is not my native language so forgive me any bad wording that can cause misunderstanding. Thank you in advance Best regards, Jiří 1 Quote
DirkO Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Hi Jiri and welcome! If I see correctly, your tsuba is signed Jakushi. You can Google Jakushi tsuba, to see how yours compare both for quality and price. Quote
1kinko Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Check out what Kristian has to sell. Quote
kissakai Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Nothing wrong with tsuba but it is a bit basic 3 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Jiří, welcome to the NMB forum! If you compare many TSUBA you can find in museums, books and online, you should be able to train your eyes until you feel comfortable for a purchase. Still much better would be the acquaintance with a friendly collector who lets you see and handle his TSUBA. The depicted TSUBA is crude, the signature is probably wrong (JAKUSHI made much nicer TSUBA than this), and thus it is not collectable in my opinion. TSUBA like this are usually sold for about € 50.-- . Be patient with your purchases - there is a big worldwide market, so there is no need for a rush! Have a look at the many TSUBA for sale here on NMB. 3 Quote
Grey Doffin Posted January 30, 2023 Report Posted January 30, 2023 Hi Jiri, You wrote: From what I red Nakago on the the bottom should be horizontal and shouldn't be into V shape so that's good sign for me and cast tsuba should have some rim inside Kozuka and also I should have been able to see some bubbles on surface so I believe that this tsuba is genuine Yes, but. As there are exceptions to every rule you aren't safe buying tsuba that conform to these rules. Not all cast tsuba have rim inside the ana, not all have bubbles, and there may even be a real tsuba or 2 with a v-shaped bottom of the nakago-ana. Do not rely on rules; rather, you need to study good tsuba, either in hand or in good pictures, to learn what you should buy. The more you know before you buy the happier you'll be with what you buy. As Jean says above, there is no need to rush; there will always be good to great tsuba available. The tsuba you picture is mediocre and hasn't been mounted (not a good sign on a mediocre iron tsuba); you can do much better. If you insist on buying before knowledge, you need to find a dealer you can trust. Grey 5 Quote
Plebejec Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Posted January 31, 2023 First of all thank you very much for your kind words I was afraid that I wasn't prepared enough for my question. Dirk thank you for translation I will definitely look it up. Darrel I will. Thank you. I quickly look at it and he have wonderful tsubas but most of them are way above my budget. Grev that tsuba is for sale for really long time and I had eye on it and I really like it but now I have my doubts. Maybe I don't have good taste. Jean thank you very much. That tsuba is way more expensive than 50 euro so I think I will pass thank you. I tried to find tsuba on our local market which is not full of Chinese replica but on the other hand there is only 30 tsubas listed right now in my country. Grey thank you for your advice. I think I will spend few more month studying whats here on forum and maybe after some time the right one will come up I am really grateful to all of you so thank you. That tsuba is listed for 150-180 euro (+-conversion) so now I think tsubas here are really overpriced. Jiří 1 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted January 31, 2023 Report Posted January 31, 2023 On 1/30/2023 at 5:16 PM, Plebejec said: Jiří Expand There is almost an identical copy of your tsuba here- https://www.jauce.com/auction/h1046216127 You will nearly always pay more for a well known name on a tsuba - even if the signature is not always correct or the tsuba is not very well made. My advice is forget about any signatures and concentrate on what pleases you [ if it happens to be signed that may be a bonus but go with your heart first.] No use having the name of some great maker on a piece you really don't like. As far as price goes, I know some members say save your money and only get the very best - but you won't know the very best straight away so don't spend a fortune on what other people consider you should buy. Ask opinions sure, but the choice should always be yours. Quote
Plebejec Posted January 31, 2023 Author Report Posted January 31, 2023 Hello Dale, thank you for your advice. I really liked that composition to me it seem like painting on tsuba. Its really hard to judge quality for me as a newbie. Also those gold details really attracted my attention. Now I have a slight idea of what I would like to collect and its something like scenery picture depicted on tsuba for now. Thank you again for comment. Jiří 1 Quote
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