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Interesting hamon. What are your thoughts?

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Some weird combo of Soshu-Bizen is not at all uncommon beginning from the late Muromachi. This one has a typical modern steel look, it produces very harsh nie and as if drawn hamon contours.

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I forgot to update the thread. It checked out with a  very well known polisher who I consult with when I purchase swords. I sent him 12 high-res photos when it recently arrived.

 

It's the original shikomi polish from when it was forged. It's as new still

 

 

"This is a perfectly good traditional hand forged Japanese blade.  It has a definite grain structure.  It is clearly visible in the striations at the top of the hamon.  It is just a very dense pattern which is actually a mark of high quality.  It appears to be water quenched.  This looks like a winner.  Either shin-shinto or very early gendaito."

 

 

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Brian

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Yes, I don't think there was ever any doubt that it's a real, traditionally made blade. I don't think Gendaito though, looks earlier.

 

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Brian

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JudgeD?
Did they really kantei this as Ono Yoshimitsu? That would be a huge result. But I'm really confused how one of his swords can be mumei without date?
 

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15 hours ago, Brian said:

JudgeD?
Did they really kantei this as Ono Yoshimitsu? That would be a huge result. But I'm really confused how one of his swords can be mumei without date?
 

Yes they did. Here is what Chris B had to say.

 

Yes, fantastic sword! Such a shame the signature is gone. The shinsa team really liked it!

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Yes, but hasn't he also forged swords outside of Japan? Or maybe I'm mistaken and that was Yoshihara Yoshindo.
Also interested that they say Den Ono Yoshimitsu. But still sounds like a great find. And since he's still living, I would make every effort to reach out to him and ask him about it. You should be able to get the enquiry to him via Paul Martin or one of the dealers like Aoi or any large dealer. Looking forward to any updates.

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Read this post

Have I misinterpreted/lost touch with trends/or something  ?

I was always led to believe Shinsa would never certify a blade by a currently living Smith? ...

 

This always made sense to me  ... as , if an attribution was given  and a current living Smith stepped in and said " I didn't make that blade " after appraisal 

Someone's gona end up with egg on their face ?

 

Same again , have I missed something  ? Showato /oil temper blades gaining certification  as well ..?

 

With Total Respect To All Parties  !

AlanK

 

 

Brian

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They make it clear on the paper that they aren't certifying it or issuing papers for it, for that very reason.
I think it's good that they say why, and give an opinion on who made it, but clarifying that they can't issue origami. So what you have here is a rejection with a good reason and a helpful opinion on who made it.

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