Could someone help with this please?

[Brian Hancock]

I have just bought this Yari and I am going around in circles trying to read the signature. Am I right in thinking this says Hisayuki? A full translation of the signature would be great.

 

Thanks,

 

Brian.

[Stephen]

Am I right in thinking this says Hisayuki?

 

Yes, the first two is a name of a clan, the last two is on alot of swords you should be able to sort them out, give it another go.

[Mark Green]

Hi Brian,

Looks like 'Fujiwara Hisayuki saku Kore' edit, thanks Grey

 

There were half a dozen. I would think your guy is Edo. Can you pic the whole Yari?

Mark Green

[Brian Hancock]

Hi Mark,

 

I haven't got it yet as its "Awaiting Customs Charges" (Again!) but here is the picture from the Ebay listing.

[Mark Green]

I thought I had seen that before. I'm glad I didn't snipe you.

I wasn't too sure about the Hamon. From the pics, I couldn't say if it was whole.

Could be a nice little yari though.

Good luck, let me know when you get it.

Mark G

[Grey Doffin]

Not Takada; Fujiwara I believe.

Grey

[Mark Green]

Oops, My bad, I looked too quick. I believe Grey is right. What was I thinking, The Bungo guys almost never used that Yuki.

That changes things, to the Sagami, or Musashi guys. All late Edo. One of the Sagami guys was known for making yari.

But, your Mei lines up perfect with the Musashi guy Lived in Edo, Hawley's 10pt, His 198

Signed ' Fujiwara Hisayuki suku kore' Just like yours.

Sorry for the mix up, I'm surly loosing my mind. That was the main reason I quit looking to buy it from ebay. Darn I'm doing too many tasks at once. Sorry Bro.

Thanks Grey, for catching that

Mark G

[Stephen]

thought we were helping ppl to translate more on there own, fujiwara is easy one to learn as well as saku kore, try a bit harder next time and youll get a warm fuzzy feeling when you learn it on your own.

[Mark Green]

You right Steve.

[loiner1965]

thought we were helping ppl to translate more on there own, fujiwara is easy one to learn as well as saku kore, try a bit harder next time and youll get a warm fuzzy feeling when you lean it on your own.

hi steve.....

i struggle to read my native language of english nevermind Japanese

[Ted Tenold]

Brian,

 

This looks like the work of a smith named Kawaii Hisayuki. The mei looks consistant with examples I've seen, and Kawaii Hisayuki was a Sojutsu (spearmanship) master. Also, I looked up the auction and the other images of it. I found the nakagojiri is consistant as well.

 

Here's an oshigata I took of one of his works.

 

This yari should be examined for polishing.

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

I dont' think Kawai Hisayuki is the good horse; according my books, he never signed Fujiwara.

[Nobody]

The following examples show that Kawai Hisayuki seems to have signed also Fujiwara Hisayuki.

http://sinogi.dee.cc/katarogu/1812/hisa ... 114382.htm

http://www.seiyudo.com/WA-08045.htm

[Brian Hancock]

Just to say thanks to all for your efforts on my behalf. I would now be greatful if customs would just let go of it!

 

Thanks Again,

 

Brian.

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

After having checked my books attentively i can say that Iimura (shinshinto taikan) quotes this kind of signature :D

[Mark Green]

Wow, Brian,

That would be great, to have a yari from that guy, for that price!

Mark

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

Wow, Brian,

That would be great, to have a yari from that guy, for that price!

Mark

 

 

Yes if it turns to be shoshin and if it has not lost its hamon.

[Mark Green]

Well yah!

How many gimei yari have you seen?

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

Well yah!

How many gimei yari have you seen?

 

 

At this time? none, but that does'nt mean it can't be; Hisa yuki is a jo-saku and at this title, he is susceptible to be copied.

 

Something on the mei discussed makes me uncomfortable. Can you find what?

 

[Mark Green]

I would say that there are so many points that it would take to long to write up.

The spacing for one, depth, and angles of cuts, on and on. But there is a bit of restriction to doing a mei on a yari Nakago.

I have see a few others Sword/yari from the same smith that looked very different.

However, that is why I was thinking it was the other guy.

Anyone got a yari pic from the famous Yari maker?

Mark

Found this on Loui's site, not very close either.

Maybe his papers say 'who' Hisayuki it is.

 

Found this on the old sword board. From Andreas in Grm. I wonder if he is still a member?

This one look kinda close

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

Yes and it has the feature about which i speak.

[mdiddy]

I think I found the feature you are referring to that is common between these mei. The 3rd looks gimei to me.

 

Sorry, I had to edit this post - for the same reason the original photo had to be deleted from my own post: NMB is hosted in South Africa, and the laws there are a little stricter than elsewhere when it comes to nuditiy, even (or maybe especially) in regard to children.

 

Guido Schiller

 

Edit: I was wondering why I could no longer find it on the board. No worries - totally understand.

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

Look at the kanji Yuki 幸, whatever the style the central vertical stroke is always engraved in two parts (oshigata below)

 

 

I do not find this particularity on the sword discussed.

[Ted Tenold]

There was a Nidai Hisayuki who first signed Hisataka. This variation could be peculiar to him, though there is nothing to firmly substantiate this through oshigatas of dated works that I know of. I have three oshigatas of the Shodai Hisayuki works that I made personally. The small variation in this one stroke does not convince me that it is gimei in the face of all the other strokes that are quite consistant. Even as a Jo-saku smith, he was not very famous in his day, and efforts to gimei a sword (especially a little yari) for monetary gain would likely have carried a name of more notoriety. I doubt someone with the forgery skill of Kajihei would have tried knocking out a gimei Yari to a guy nobody really recognized.

 

This is the first time I've seen this central stroke variation, but not the only variation I've seen in the Yuki kanji. The two small tagane right and left of the central stroke, and between the top and second horizontal strokes also have two variants; the strokes are directly between the horizontals (a Shodai trait for sure), or they cross over the second horizontal. Again, I think this may perhaps be peculiar to the Nidai as I've seen this only on Yari so far, and not swords. The Nidai continued forging swords and teaching swordsmanship after his father and lived well into Meiji. It would be nice if the Yari were dated because then we could perhaps establish the Nidai as the maker. Unfortunately we're forced to speculate.

 

Personally, I think it's righteous. But that's just my opinion, worth what I charge for it.

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

I've never seen a Hisayoshi/taka's work. Concerning the one discussed here, i don't say it is gimei, i just say i don't find a characteristic which seems permanent on Kawai Hisayuki's mei.

[Mark Green]

Hey Brian,

Got that Yari yet?

Waiting for some good pics.

Mark G

[Brian Hancock]

Hi All, Just got the Yari back from the polisher yesterday. Here are some images for you all to see. I think he has done a fantastic job. The polisher was Tony Norman down in Ol' London Town.

Cheers,

Brian H.

[Mark Green]

Looks like a flawless gem to me Brian.

Congrats!!!

[loiner1965]

that looks fantastic brian and the hamon really stands out....chuffed for ya mate

[Brian Hancock]

Thanks guy's, much appreciated. It has come out rather well !

 

Brian H.