affordable katana for sale in shirasaya

[lonely panet]

hi guys,  its big,  its afforable ,here some quick pics, 

 

nagasa is 72cm

 hamon is nie based  gumone with touches of taron-ba,  with some rough kinsuji.

with large plots of Yubashiri.

hada is a tight itame with a mix of mokume.

im thinking its  shinshinto but have no time spend researching it. 

 

 so i dont know the mei, or the tradition of the blade.  i just dont have time for it atm. 

 

it would be called lower mid,  with a gearish hadori,  and a average polish.

 

comes with a shirsaya bag and oshigata.

Im happy with $2000 USD  including postage,  world wide with tracking and sign on delivary 

 

 

 

regards Hamish

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[georges]

PM sent.

[Brian]

Stunning deal.

[lonely panet]

some real good swords have just been posted so i must compete for attention,  

so price reduced to $1850 including post world wide. 

 

 

[lonely panet]

sold 

[georges]

Here we go again. Another day, another broken deal. I was first to show interest (as in "I want to buy your blade" since other sellers seem to think "I'm interested in your blade" doesn't mean buying is what you want to do with them) and marked it on the thread for good measures. Seller responded he's opened to offers and asked me what was mine. I asked some more pictures of the nakago to make the offer since it really wasn't clearly visible. Seller said "there as good as it gets" so had to study seller's not-clear pictures instead. And when I made my offer, seller told me "sorry your to late,  the blade has been sold". No warning that seller was considering other offers at the moment (though they would be wrong not to), no warning that seller was impatient or looking for immediate agreement, no warning that I had to make my offer faster, no warning that our deal was going to pass over to somebody else, just plain no communication after entering into the negotiation phase, and then gone.

 

About 80% of the time I'm looking at purchasing something on this forum, I encounter the funniest people acting in the funniest manners. So once again this forum really needs some basic directions, if not code of conduct, for buyers and sellers alike as to how to conduct sales, because at the moment it's just a big circus where sellers just go "sorry not you" or "sorry the second guy wasn't first but hey I don't care I've sold my stuff now". And since everything is happening in the PM section, no accountability is holding them. Of course people are free to do what they want, but I don't imagine this is an excuse for abusing members and the sale section, is it?

[Brian]

I can't control how people deal. This is just a facilitator site for people to deal. Just like every other classified section on every website or forum.
You think Craigslist is willing to tell people who they should sell to?
It's just not going to happen.
My advice...if you want something be fast, say "I'd like first right of refusal please" and don't delay comms.
I can see a seller deciding to sell to someone local instead of overseas, or someone they have dealt with before. It's frustrating, but not something I am going to legislate.
Sucks, but that's life.

[georges]

@Brian I'm not talking about control or regulations, but guidelines. This section has rules, so I would suggest you find a way to formulate the things that are not okay in most people's minds because they allegedly are in some's. People using this section to make some blinking-fast cash with no accountability whatsoever and leaving all civility behind (including insults in PM and racist slurs in public) is probably not what you had in mind, is it? Or this could just be another Craigslist then?

 

It's so ironic how last time I had an issue with a seller was because I was too fast for them as they'd take weeks to answer. This time over it took this seller just one day, one, to take on a second buyer without any kind of warning even though I had already committed. In both cases I end up with nothing and my reputation ends up suffering just because I inform the thread to call these people out in an attempt to hold them the least accountable. I find it really strange that nobody cares. It doesn't take much to drive this sort of behaviour away.

[Seth]

40 minutes ago, georges said:

@Brian I'm not talking about control or regulations, but guidelines. This section has rules, so I would suggest you find a way to formulate the things that are not okay in most people's minds because they allegedly are in some's. People using this section to make some blinking-fast cash with no accountability whatsoever and leaving all civility behind (including insults in PM and racist slurs in public) is probably not what you had in mind, is it? Or this could just be another Craigslist then?

 

It's so ironic how last time I had an issue with a seller was because I was too fast for them as they'd take weeks to answer. This time over it took this seller just one day, one, to take on a second buyer without any kind of warning even though I had already committed. In both cases I end up with nothing and my reputation ends up suffering just because I inform the thread to call these people out in an attempt to hold them the least accountable. I find it really strange that nobody cares. It doesn't take much to drive this sort of behaviour away.

 

I haven't experienced anything that you have listed above on this board. Maybe this will be helpful for you or maybe it won't, but I examine an item and then decide if I want to purchase it or not. If I decide to purchase it, I send a PM and ask if it is still available. If it is I tell them, I will take it and request their PayPal. When they give their PayPal, I pay immediately on the spot. I do not haggle on the price since most users here are already very reasonable with their pricing. If it's not available, I move on with my life.

 

I thought the pictures provided above were reasonable and gave plenty of details for a decision to be made.  

 

Again, not an attack just trying to help you be more successful BUT from reading some of the other threads and seeing where you requested a contract for a book sale I wouldn't be surprised if people are hesitant to deal with you in regard to items well over that threshold. Have to have some trust, especially with members who have been on here for decades. They aren't going to decide to rip someone off on a small value sale and ruin their reputation just to take advantage of you.

 

All the best!     

[PNSSHOGUN]

If you are having these issues with multiple sellers then there must be some miscommunication with your approach to the sale. We all miss out on great deals but I don't see the need to make a big fuss about it.

[georges]

No, the wrong approach is to take the easy route in an excuse to not improve anything. Every time this happens to me, I take time to inform what exactly happened precisely so that people don't end up saying what you're saying. But if every single member in this forum believes there's nothing wrong with the events I describe and therefore no reason to attempt making this forum a place that's better able to serve all its members, then yes just keep saying it's just life that sucks and continue business as usual.

[Brian]

You seem to think that the forum needs to control the morals of the members. Who do you think is going to sit in judgement of such occurrences and decide on a punishment?
How exactly do you think someone should be punished for deciding to sell to someone else?
For people enjoying a free forum who don't pay anything for it, some people really expect a lot of oversight.
If someone is defrauded or there are illegal deals, THEN I'll go all out to resolve the issue. But I'm simply stumped at exactly what you expect me to do.
Code of Conduct? There are already rules for selling and buying.
How about you put pen to paper, and draft up what you think would be a good CoC and I'll take a look, and if it's good, I'll publish it.
Not sure how that will help, but willing to consider it.
 

[georges]

Like I told you before : put more guidelines in the rules.

And just like you pop up when say the rule of putting a price in the ad wasn't observed, perhaps do the same for the other rules/guidelines. But already clear and guidelines would help.

Nothing is ever finished and I'm trying to help, so don't take it like I'm saying you're not doing a job nobody should expect you to do. I'm making a suggestion to improve your rules/guidelines so that less problems happen in the future. People are different, I get it, but that doesn't mean they can't trade in fairness and with civilised manners.

[lonely panet]

On 11/29/2022 at 9:53 PM, georges said:

Here we go again. Another day, another broken deal. I was first to show interest (as in "I want to buy your blade" since other sellers seem to think "I'm interested in your blade" doesn't mean buying is what you want to do with them) and marked it on the thread for good measures. Seller responded he's opened to offers and asked me what was mine. I asked some more pictures of the nakago to make the offer since it really wasn't clearly visible. Seller said "there as good as it gets" so had to study seller's not-clear pictures instead. And when I made my offer, seller told me "sorry your to late,  the blade has been sold". No warning that seller was considering other offers at the moment (though they would be wrong not to), no warning that seller was impatient or looking for immediate agreement, no warning that I had to make my offer faster, no warning that our deal was going to pass over to somebody else, just plain no communication after entering into the negotiation phase, and then gone.

 

About 80% of the time I'm looking at purchasing something on this forum, I encounter the funniest people acting in the funniest manners. So once again this forum really needs some basic directions, if not code of conduct, for buyers and sellers alike as to how to conduct sales, because at the moment it's just a big circus where sellers just go "sorry not you" or "sorry the second guy wasn't first but hey I don't care I've sold my stuff now". And since everything is happening in the PM section, no accountability is holding them. Of course people are free to do what they want, but I don't imagine this is an excuse for abusing members and the sale section, is it?

wow just read this.

 

i never new this  guy was making deals with "me".... he never offered a deal.  he tried to haggle on price. while i was ignoring his haggling, the sword sold.

 

he got upset when i posted it sold.

 

next time you try and be a cheap bastard and haggle a seller down to a stupid price on what is already a stunning deal,  just remember im free to sell  to others .

we or i didnt enter ANY agrement with you. 

 

so stop runining what was a good sale for the person whom paid me instantly,  and got extra out of my pleasure of a easy transaction