Matchlock Gun Manual Ball Making Machine

[Spartancrest]

This is way outside my speciality [if I had one] but for the gun enthusiasts I think this might be of some interest.

https://www.jauce.com/auction/g1073036673

 

 

Regards.

 

Oh and this little piece might interest someone - https://www.jauce.com/auction/p1073034812

Edited November 23, 2022 by Spartancrest
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[Bazza]

Can we comment on the 'little piece' if it is a jauce auction, or do our 'no comment' rules apply here?????

 

BaZZa

[Brian]

Where has there ever been a "no comment" policy on external items?
And if Jauce doesn't like it...let them pay a sponsorship. They get enough free advertising here anyways.

[Bazza]

Well then, this 'little piece' looks like a modern made hobby piece to me.  Good looking to be sure, but not old...

 

BaZZa.

[Bugyotsuji]

My thumbs up was a thank-you for posting. 

[Brian]

Agree. Most of these are.

[Spartancrest]

Just dropping off a related "gunpowder container for matchlock" Not sure where to put these things, they are not in my field of interest but someone might want to know?  Not playing favourites with either Jauce/Buyee/Yahoo or eBay [ad nauseam]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/234818337658

 

 

[Bugyotsuji]

Hard to judge from that one photo, Dale but the chances are fairly strong that it is of more recent construction. 
Quite possibly some other container that has been ‘turned into’ an alleged gunpowder container.

[Spartancrest]

Piers, I think you are perfectly correct, it doesn't look nearly old enough - but these gunpowder weapons and accessories are not my subject - just something someone else might like for their equally "old" gun collection. I don't think I will post any more of these "finds" I don't know what I am looking at and it is a field of weaponry that doesn't interest me personally. 

[Bugyotsuji]

Dale. 
I am not complaining at all. In fact I bet your next find will be on target! 
These things I do collect, and I am sorry to see the fakes being sold as the real McCoy. (Possibly the dealers buy them in ignorance and simply try to pass them along.)

 

On Thursday at Ako Castle I found a real piece and quickly snapped it up before anyone else spotted it.

 

There are certain specifications or conventions for 

a) Coarse powder flasks

b) Fine priming powder flasks

c) Quick loading tubes

etc.

Many of the ones for sale cross over two or more, and end up being neither one nor ‘tother.

 

[Brian]

Dale,
Please don't stop. Without posts like this, how do we learn how to identify the things that we come across, and also they are still very interesting.

[Bugyotsuji]

Just had a look at the link to Jauce for the first time. The container looks not too bad actually and in the right ball park.

 

There should be a similar design fitment (iron in this case) on the top to the one on the side. It's the spout fixture that looks 'new', possibly replacing something there that was lost. Usually a tight-fitting cap on the spout (no cap on this example except for the large overall lid) would act as a powder measure.

 

In light of Brian's post above, and repeating stuff I've posted elsewhere, I might post some examples tomorrow... if I can get my fingers warm enough... -2 now and heading for -4 tonight, and this house is like Varykino.

[Bugyotsuji]

In this photo you can see a variety of traditional Japanese 

a) Coarse powder flasks.

Spot the conventions.

Notice how the spouts are capped with measuring caps. Notice how the cord-tie fixtures tend to coordinate in material, design and colour.

(There are exceptions. And I get that any airtight container would have been better than nothing.)

 

 

[Brian]

Good info!

[Peter Bleed]

IMHO, the tool that got this thread started IS (!) a cartridge reloading device that was designed to re-set the primer in the base of a cartridge. It looks very 19th/20th century to me

Peter