Japan proxy service for swords with certificates?

[Yamato collector]

Hello,

The Japanese proxy services I have used (DeJapan, Zenmarket) don't deal with swords, or items with certificates that require special permission for export. 

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks! Ron

[Brian]

https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/29128-kelly-schmidt-saved-my-bacon-or-crane

https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/41682-sword-stuck-in-japan

 

[Yamato collector]

Thanks for the leads Brian!

Found this page about  Kelly Schmidt's Japan Auctions services:
https://www.facebook.com/Japanese.antique.auctions/about_details

[FZ1]

Kelly is excellent - highly recommended.

 

Jon

 

[Yamato collector]

To summarize Kelly's fees:

• 15% of the auction end price (6000yen minimum per item)
•  Paypal fee (not specified)
• All blades over 15cm: 35000 fee includes receiving, examination, photographing, export permit application to the Ministry of Culture, cancellation of the torukusho registration at the police department, EMS, and insurance (extra fee for high insure).

 

[Bruno]

Hi,

 

Kelly Schmidt recently told me he stopped exporting blades more than a year ago.

 

Do you know a reliable middleman/broker who could bid, buy and export outside Japan (to France in my case) nihonto on Yahoo Japan?

 

Thanks

[Lewis B]

13 minutes ago, Bruno said:

Hi,

 

Kelly Schmidt recently told me he stopped exporting blades more than a year ago.

 

Do you know a reliable middleman/broker who could bid, buy and export outside Japan (to France in my case) nihonto on Yahoo Japan?

 

Thanks

Bid through Jauce. You will have to authorize the bid theough so give yourself a couple of days to get the authorization and acceptance of the extra fees for swords. They provide a purchase thru delivery service. Never used them but others have. The fees do start to accumulate but could be a good standby option.

[Bruno]

Thanks Lewis B.

 

I have read about Jauce (do they really export nihonto for sure?)but was wondering if a real person could do the job.

[Yumso]

11 minutes ago, Bruno said:

Hi,

 

Kelly Schmidt recently told me he stopped exporting blades more than a year ago.

 

Do you know a reliable middleman/broker who could bid, buy and export outside Japan (to France in my case) nihonto on Yahoo Japan?

 

Thanks

 

Paul Kremers.
I've got lots of help from him. I think he also does proxy Yahoo bidding service too. Try sending mail to him.

[Lewis B]

3 hours ago, Bruno said:

Thanks Lewis B.

 

I have read about Jauce (do they really export nihonto for sure?)but was wondering if a real person could do the job.

Maybe have a word with Gerry. He has purchased blades with Jauce

 

 

[Gerry]

Yes, Jauce is a good proxy service to use for Yahoo Auction listings in Japan. Just tack on an additional 20% on top of the winning bid price. I've bought a total of 7 swords using their services. Always prompt on responses.

 

One note though, they only ship to addresses outside Japan. You can't ship a sword to a local sword dealer in Japan for shinsa or koshirae services, nor can you pick up the swords in person. I guess they want to make $$$ on the shipping services.

[Lewis B]

6 minutes ago, Gerry said:

they only ship to addresses outside the US. 

Interesting. Wonder why? So where did you ship your blades?

[SteveM]

1 hour ago, Gerry said:

I guess they want to make $$$ on the shipping services.

 

It may be a tax requirement. If they sell or ship to a local person, they will have to collect (and submit) consumption taxes. 

[Gerry]

Unfortunately, they still collected on the sales tax from stores that charged it, even though I clarified with Jauce that the sword was shipping to the US. Another thing to consider with auctions that state the 10% sales tax requirement.

[Gerry]

2 hours ago, Lewis B said:

Interesting. Wonder why? So where did you ship your blades?

Sorry, my bad...I meant Jauce only ships to addresses outside Japan. They don't ship to addresses inside Japan.

[Lewis B]

10 minutes ago, Gerry said:

Sorry, my bad...I meant Jauce only ships to addresses outside Japan. They don't ship to addresses inside Japan.

Ah OK that makes sense now