kissakai Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 I believe this to be an 1886 pattern Naval Officers sword After looking at Dawes – Swords of Imperial Japan 1868 – 1945 I confused Page 256/7 shows 1183 pattern with an identical 9 leaf pattern but the image shown has a mekugi securing pin but mine does not Also stated the colour of my pommel is for an ensign to captain Later on page 341 figure 27-3 states this colour is Chokunin (means nothing to me) level guard design Known: 9 leaf pattern Solid tsuba Blade has a groove and pointed. The etched Hamon has been polished away Confused: Naval or other 1888 or 1883 pattern The grade of the owner Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Grev, The civil branch of the military were called Gunzoku. They wore military styled uniforms and had their own rank structure. The chokunin rank was equivalent to General officer. I don't know enough about them to say that they worked navy, but this is a navy dress sword. Dress swords weren't fighting blades and were simply one-piece steel with faked hamon. Only the real fighting blades used the mekugi. You can read a bit more on Nick Komiya's post Here. I believe there is a better, more complete discussion elsewhere, but that one should help. Maybe someone who knows the pre-WWII sword knots, like @PNSSHOGUN, can comment on the tassel. 1 Quote
kissakai Posted November 10, 2022 Author Report Posted November 10, 2022 Thanks Bruce that was an interesting link I've added this request to the Gunboard forum as they were very helpful with details about my Arisaka Just added one line: Is the knot tied correctly Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 10, 2022 Report Posted November 10, 2022 It's a bit of a mess, but seems right. You'll find some clear examples on Ohmura's page of Army Officers Kyu Gunto Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 Knot is a standard Naval Kyu Gunto type, although it has suffered greatly. It appears to be tied correctly. 1 Quote
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