Gendai smiths that aren't in the list

[Peter Bleed]

I have become the owner of what sure looks like a "nice" very early shingunto that is signed Ishihara Yoshisada with a faint Seki stamp. It retains its original polish (along with scratches and stains) so it looks like it was a well forged blade. But the smith ain't in Slough's list. This experience leads me to ask how "complete" our listings are?

[BANGBANGSAN]

義定 Civilian name 石原錠一  is in the 軍刀(昭和刀）の関鍛治刀匠名簿232名 Gunto(Showato) Seki smith(232) name list

http://www.touken-kasugado.com/faq_2.html    first raw #73  
He became RJT smith in 1939.10.25.

[Peter Bleed]

Wow! Thanks very much Trystan! Swords like this used to be common, but I have not seen one in a while. I am impressed that this blade retains enough of its "old" polish to suggest that in addition to s seriously good hamon, it looks like laminated steel. I could easily be convinced that this sword was made before later 1941.

Again, thanks!

Peter

[Bruce Pennington]

  On 11/7/2022 at 10:52 PM, Peter Bleed said:

how "complete" our listings are?

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Peter,

I use Slough, Sesko, and Japanese Sword Index and I STILL come across smiths, even RJT smiths, that aren't on any lists.  So, it isn't uncommon.  You've got an eagle-eye spotting that faint stamp!  Large Seki stamps are usually found on pretty nice blades.

 

  On 11/8/2022 at 12:16 AM, BANGBANGSAN said:

He became RJT smith in 1939.10.25

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Trytan,

I understood the RJT program to begin in late '41-early '42.  What are you telling us?

[PNSSHOGUN]

Hi Peter, this list is very useful as well: http://www.jp-sword.com/files/seki/gendaito.html

[BANGBANGSAN]

  On 11/8/2022 at 2:11 AM, Bruce Pennington said:

 

 

Trytan,

I understood the RJT program to begin in late '41-early '42.  What are you telling us?

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The date should be when he became a Gunto smith instead RJT smith .Says on the top of that website :受付年月日