MrTT Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 Hello Guys New to collecting swords. I just bought my first katana, from a big collector guy. Do you guys know who / were / when it was made. I would really appreciate any info. Thank you /Dave Quote
Brian Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 Try a closer, clear pic of the tang vertically? Without too much background. Quote
MrTT Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Posted November 1, 2022 Sorry, this is the best picture i have. Quote
SteveM Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 備中所生三宅邦松 Bitchū shosei Miyake Kunimatsu Modern swordsmith. 3 Quote
MrTT Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, SteveM said: 備中所生三宅邦松 Bitchū shosei Miyake Kunimatsu Modern swordsmith. Thank You 🙂 Quote
Brian Posted November 2, 2022 Report Posted November 2, 2022 Hmmm. I'm not so sure this reminds me of a shinsakuto. Anyone else? Could this be a Komonjo special? (a guy who lists swords on eBay that are usually not what they seem at first) Quote
MrTT Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Brian said: Hmmm. I'm not so sure this reminds me of a shinsakuto. Anyone else? Could this be a Komonjo special? (a guy who lists swords on eBay that are usually not what they seem at first) I got this from the seller. "BICHU SHOJO MYAKI KUNITSUGU SAKU" is the signature it was given from my Japanese dealer so i cant know exactly because i dont know read kanjis, there are very dificult because they can mean different thinks. Quote
MrTT Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Posted November 2, 2022 I found this picture from an auction 2 years ago. Its a katana made by Miyake Kunimatsu. Hmm, not same like on my sword ?? Quote
Brian Posted November 2, 2022 Report Posted November 2, 2022 Not possible to say from the pics given. Even the nakago jiri is different. Who the Japanese seller was also plays a part. This stuff is flooding the market from sellers like komonjo etc. I just can't say. Quote
MrTT Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Posted November 2, 2022 16 minutes ago, Brian said: Not possible to say from the pics given. Even the nakago jiri is different. Who the Japanese seller was also plays a part. This stuff is flooding the market from sellers like komonjo etc. I just can't say. This is the sword made by Miyake Kunimatsu. Quote
MrTT Posted November 2, 2022 Author Report Posted November 2, 2022 The seller told me he think it was made pre ww2. Probably before arround year 1940-45, there was many guntos for high rank officers that never see the light because it was many on stock, or the officer inself has his own family sword, etc. Dificult to know, and after the war in last showa times was mounted on a custom civil koshirae maybe, hard to know exactly it was buyed with other several swords gunto and samurai antiques in Japan Quote
Matsunoki Posted November 2, 2022 Report Posted November 2, 2022 Dave, As Brian says, impossible to say anything meaningful about the blade with these images. Where you buy a sword and who you buy it from can give you reassurance or it can set off many alarms. Apparently this came from a “big collector guy” but the story he has given you contains a lot of misleading uncertainties. To my eyes based on these images the fittings and tsuka Ito etc look brand new. According to the info on this smith that you have found he was born in 1944 and didn’t get his licence until 1989 so what the seller told you is rubbish. He could not have made it before 1940-45….and it certainly doesn’t look that old. The story doesn’t really stack up……but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “bad” . It could (hopefully) be a shinsakuto (modern sword) by this smith. Has it got a date on the other side of the nakago? Can you give this forum clear images of the detail in the kissaki, the hamon and the hada?…..then you will learn much more. All the best. Colin Quote
Brian Posted November 2, 2022 Report Posted November 2, 2022 Contact @Paul Martin (can probably find him on Facebook) and see if he has any contact details for the smith. Send him pics and ask if he made it. Or maybe find his contact details on the web. I hope it's him, but I have my doubts. It was certainly not made by him before he was born Quote
JD808 Posted November 2, 2022 Report Posted November 2, 2022 Looks like one of those komonjo blades. If I'm not mistaken it's a shinsakuto and any legit shinsakuto must be signed and dated to my understanding. The fact that it isn't dated is a red flag. The habaki and all the fittings look komonjo like. Regards deljay 1 Quote
MrTT Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Posted November 3, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 11:46 PM, SteveM said: 備中所生三宅邦松 Bitchū shosei Miyake Kunimatsu Modern swordsmith. I just noticed, there is one kanji missing. The last one is missing. Quote
MrTT Posted November 3, 2022 Author Report Posted November 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, SteveM said: 作 = made by 備中所生三宅邦松作 Bicchu student Kunimatsu Miyake Thanks 👍 Quote
SteveM Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 I think, "Made by Kunimatsu Miyake, from Bitchū province" would be better. 1 1 Quote
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