Swords Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 Any body hav additional information regarding this sword My concerns are is it forging process I did read the Japanese pours iron info a tube so it’s soft on the inside and hard on out side thus preventing it from breaking under extreme cold What we’re the different types of experimental steel ? It’s also noted that they we’re considered traditional! But I don’t think they folded in the traditional way! I thought they were rare until I read what Bruce said they cranked out 400 a month and a total of 38000 during WW2 1 Quote
Swords Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Posted November 1, 2022 I was able to get a copy a page of John slough from a friend so it pretty much answers my questions These swords were made outside of Japan The best examples of these swords we’re produced in Japan so unless u know for sure it may not be the better one Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Swords said: My concerns are is it forging process Steve, what concerns you about it? They were so popular, it is said they had a wait-list of officers wanting them. As to traditional, there was nothing traditional about them - Manchurian steel, rod-in-tube construction - unknown quenching. Did you read the SMR Mantetsu Article? I honestly don't believe more can be said about them that's not already in it. With full respect to Mr Slough, none of them were made in Japan. There were 4,500 "unfinished" blades sent to Tokyo 1st for finishing to help them meet their yearly quota, but the blades were made by the Japanese mego-company South Manchurian Railway, or Mantetsu. Is that gunto up for sale online? If, so, could you PM me a link so I can ask the seller for the serial number (unless you care to check into that for us!). Quote
Nihontocollector752 Posted November 1, 2022 Report Posted November 1, 2022 As far as utility based swords they are amazing 2 Quote
Swords Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Posted November 1, 2022 I didn’t say traditional it’s what was recorded I will see about getting the serial number 1 Quote
John C Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 Bruce: Not sure if you got the serial number for the above blade, so here it is... John C. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 8 hours ago, John C said: serial number Thanks John, appreciate it! Interesting note, that NA 574 is, so far, the last blade made in 1941 we have on file. Quote
John C Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 No problem, Bruce. Loved your article on the Mantetsu blade, however I am still unclear on one point. You note, very well I might add, the timeline for the mei and use of the logo stamp beginning in 1938. But did the use of the stamp continue or was it replaced by the mei? Thank you, John C. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, John C said: But did the use of the stamp continue or was it replaced by the mei? The last blade I have on file with the SMR logo is Spring 1939 N 574. The rest all went over to the Koa Isshin slogan. The company used the logo on all sorts of things like silverware, watches, even manhole covers, but on swords, the Koa Isshin slogan took over completely, until much later, when that was abandoned. Quote
John C Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 Bruce: Thank you! Looking forward to reading about your future discoveries. (Not like a groupie, or anything. Just interested in the topic). John C. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 Ha! Yes, it’s been fun chasing this stuff around. I have to say, though, that I’m sort of just the ‘pretty face’ on these efforts, while the lion’s share of the research and digging comes from the guys here at NMB. 1 Quote
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