The same but different. What do I have

[Michaelr]

 Below are tow swords that I recently purchased. They are both dressed in what I believe are Type 98 mounts but are both different and maybe a little unusual. I tried to post pictures of what I thought was needed but can take any pictures that may be needed for identification. To try and keep the swords separated I numbered them #1 and #2. If anyone thinks this will be too confusing and two separate post would be better please let me know and I will try and do that. Please enjoy and thank you in advance for all your help. All comments welcome good or bad. 
  Some of my observations

#1: Blade length- 25 5/8”

      Sori- 5/8”

      Blade height-3/4”

      Mune-round

      Thick Tsuba

      Gloss paint saya

      Fancy Chuso 

#2: Blade length-26 3/4”

      Sori-3/8”

      Blade height-1”

      Mune-Hikushi

      Semi gloss saya with small texture

      Clasp hand Sarute

      Very large Ashi

[Michaelr]

Pictures of # 2

[Kiipu]

Sword No. 1

The crossguard is stamped in kanji with 神戸 [Kōbe].  The full name of the company is Kōbe (or Kanbe) Shop Unlimited Partnership 合名会社･神戸商店.  I think the sword is prewar, as in it started life as a Type 94, and it is possible the entire sword could have been made by Kōbe including the blade.  Later on, Kōbe was one of the manufacturers of the Type 95 Military Sword.

[Brian]

Really hard to say. There is a ton of hadori and not a lot of hamon to be seen. I normally associate this sort of hi with Showato, but what we can see of the hamon looks decent.
Either way, good looking swords in good condition.

[Michaelr]

Thank you Thomas and Brian. If you think more pictures of the Hamon’s would be helpful I can add some, just let me know 

  MikeR

[Bruce Pennington]

@PNSSHOGUN

sakura chuso 

[David Flynn]

I vote for Showato.

[Michaelr]

Why would these blades have a fuller? Would they be the same type blade even though they are different length, different dimensions, different shape and different size fullers? Thank you. MikeR

[Bruce Pennington]

Except for the Type 95 NCO, all blades were made individually.  That's why many outer fittings aren't interchangeable.

[PNSSHOGUN]

#1 looks similar to Murata-To pattern commonly found in Kyu Gunto. Great early Type 94 Koshirae on it.

[vajo]

The pictures shows two nice gunto. Nice fittings and condition.

Can't say anything about the blades because it shows nothing to judge about gendai or showato.

I would say these are both showa-to.

Maybe you can make better pictures to see more details.