jeremy Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Hi guys, Would anyone have any information regarding the swordsmith whos real name is Yoshioka Hiroshi from Saitama prefecture, born in the 1920's? His swordsmith *art* name is Teruie. I just want to find out who he studied under and general information regarding this swordsmith. Thanks, Jeremy Hagop Quote
george trotter Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Hi, I just happened to see your post...lucky really as I've sort of stopped reading this site after a member sneered at all who are interested in modern military swords and said we shouldn't be permitted on this site...perhaps as this one may also have made non-military-use swords it is permissable to respond. Anyway, most of my reference books are packed away, (re-building) so I can only give you the following brief notes: You don't give the kanji for this Teruiye, so I may be wrong, but there was a Teruiye studying at the Nihon To Tanren Denshujo in Akasaka, Tokyo between July 5, 1933 and 1943 under Kasama Shigetsugu...his students included Teruiye, Teruhide, Teruyoshi, Terukatsu, Yoshiteru, Terumitsu. I am interested in this group as I have a sword by another of his pupils Munetoshi of Niigata (but I shouldn't mention him as he made swords for the army as Rikugun Jumei Tosho). You can find these brief notes in Tokyo Kindai Tosho 1867-1945 by Chris Bowen on geocities site by Dr Richard Stein. Good luck, George Trotter Quote
Nobody Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 Yoshioka Hiroshi (吉岡博) Teruie (輝家) Zip: 338-0831 1-3-20 Minami-motojuku, Saitama-shi, Saitama-ken Ref. http://www.tousyoukai.jp/english/member_e.shtml Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 I've sort of stopped reading this site after a member sneered at all who are interested in modern military swords and said we shouldn't be permitted on this site Hi George. There is a specific section for that now, so guess you can return to frequent this board. Quote
Brian Posted June 23, 2009 Report Posted June 23, 2009 George, One person does not speak for the forum, and if he did..it would be quite confusing as there are a thousand different opinions here. Which one person to listen to? Brian Quote
drbvac Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 George: If everyone let anyone on this board dictate what they said or did there would be no-one here except the mods and Rheinhart! If not for your book on the Swords in the Australian Museum they would still be arguing about Kanenami and Kanetoshi in another post Quote
Guido Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 ... after a member sneered at all who are interested in modern military swords ...Sounds a little like me, although I'm usually more of a frowner than a sneerer when it comes to Shôwatô. In any case, Brian now keeps me on too short a leash to upset collectors of post-1876 swords ... Quote
drbvac Posted June 24, 2009 Report Posted June 24, 2009 Guido: Frowning indicates dislike or sadness; sneering - derision or superiority, and so nothing wrong with frowning. Sneering on the other hand is quite annoying and I don't think it was U! Haven't had much of either with this poor old post 1886 blade, and I like it as much maybe more than my Muromachi Kanemitsu tachi Just wanted to make sure that George continues to offer his knowledge :D ps I think this thread has been hijacked Quote
Ted Tenold Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 In any case, Brian now keeps me on too short a leash to upset collectors of post-1876 swords ... Leashes don't stop the barking. Quote
Brian Posted June 25, 2009 Report Posted June 25, 2009 Frown or sneer? I had always though of you to be more of a snarl-er. You know...lots of bark, and still a definite possibilty of a bite I think you haven't noticed the other end of your leash isn't attached to anything :lol: With my new job, extended working hours and some weeks 7 days a week...I am battling to keep up here. Jeremy..sorry we have taken your thread off track, but I am sure if we had more info for you, someone would/will post it. Brian Quote
george trotter Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Hi all, How reassuring it is to see the positive response from Brian and Brian (Canada), Guido, Carlo and Ted on my message about "sneering guy" (strangely, or should I say predictably, nothing from "sneering guy" himself). It is obvious that this site is not "elitist" and the opinion of one does not reflect the opinions of so many. I will certainly try to read the site more often and help where I can. Although poor Jeremy's query has been sidetracted by all this, I hope he got some info from us all...anything further I find for Jeremy I'll post , that's a promise. Thanks also for the PS messages sent, I will respond. I suppose I should just say that I consider all swords made 1868-1945 as gunto, for that, with a few "artistic" and religious offerings as exceptions, was their true purpose...arming the soldiers of the Imperial Army, a purpose they seem to have served very well. I see no shame in that. My interest lies with the section we term Gendaito but I also have unstamped examples by Seki Tosho which exhibit handcrafting features, so it is difficult to know which site I should be on...to give maximum assistance and to gain maximum enjoyment...I'll just visit both sites. I will continue to enjoy, research and share my knowledge on swords of this period and also those from earlier times with like minded people. As for "sneering guy", please, by all means keep on collecting your swords, studying them and sharing your knowledge with us...as for your "ubermensch" opinions, well, we who find them unacceptable will just file them where they belong, under "R", for "rubbish". Regards, George Trotter Quote
Rich T Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Hi George, it's been a while since we caught up last. I hoper all is well. Cheers Richard Turner Quote
george trotter Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Hi Richard, I never see you around these days...where do you hide...? George Trotter Quote
Guido Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 As for "sneering guy", please, by all means keep on collecting your swords, studying them and sharing your knowledge with us...as for your "ubermensch" opinions, well, we who find them unacceptable will just file them where they belong, under "R", for "rubbish".With all due respect, but don't you think you're showing a similar attitude here like the one you claim to despise so much? Quote
george trotter Posted June 26, 2009 Report Posted June 26, 2009 Hmmm...I don't think so Guido...I respect collector's interests and all Japanese swords, whether I collect that particular area or not...I don't think I have sneered at anyone's area of interest or proclaimed that any who do not share my area of interest should be banned from this site. What I did say was that this opinion of "sneering guy" should be filed under "R" for "rubbish" by all of us who don't accept his sneering stance. I add that "sneering guy" did not sneer at me personally...he sneered at all who were interested in an area of swords that did not interest him...unacceptable arrogance...hope this helps. Regards, George Trotter. Quote
Jon Fury Posted July 14, 2009 Report Posted July 14, 2009 I guess Jeremy must be offline for some reason, this reply was given to his question on another forum on June 7, to which he hasn't responded. There's a Teruiye who studied under Kasama Shigetsugu at the Denshujo listed here... http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/tokyosmi.htm Sorry if it's not the same smith but I can't find a Teruie. Quote
jeremy Posted July 15, 2009 Author Report Posted July 15, 2009 Hi fellas, Have been busy with work lately, reason for my belated response. The reason I asked about Teruie is because I was considering buying a blade made by this swordsmith from Aoi Art but couldnt get the funds for this sword that I was expecting! But thanks to everyone who made the effort to reply to my post. As always, its been most appreciated. Kind regards, Jeremy Hagop Quote
george trotter Posted July 16, 2009 Report Posted July 16, 2009 Can't find a Teruiye This comment by Jon is correct for Kasama Shigetsugu...the site he gives listed one of Kasama Sensei's "Teru" students as 1.1.2.18. Teruhide who had a student (his younger brother) 1.1.2.18.1. Teruyoshi who had a student 1.1.2.18.1.2. Teruiye. So Teruiye was taught by a student of Kasama Shigetsugu...but it is probable that all these smiths knew and worked with each other at Denshujo. Regards George Trotter Quote
george trotter Posted July 16, 2009 Report Posted July 16, 2009 Oop...correction again (I must be catching Rich Stein's advancing senility)...Kasama Shigetsugu had one "Teru" student...1.1.2.18. Teruhide. It was Teruhide who had a slew of "Teru" students ... his younger brother Teruyoshi, also Terukatsu, Yoshiteru and Terumitsu. The younger brother Teruyoshi is the one who taught Teruiye, the subject of this original query....whew, I think that's it, correct at last. Regards, "old geezer" George Trotter Refer to Chris Bowen's "Tokyo Kindai Tosho" list on Rich Stein's site. Quote
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