Would someone be kind enough to identify these two tsuba

[roger dundas]

Purchased (or should I say "picked up"?) a couple of years back, I really don't know precisely what I have. Possibly early but they could be later copies of earlier tsuba ?

1. The first with 24 petals and radial lines measures 75.8 x 73.5 x 3.4

2. The second with 8 large petals plus a double circle Mon measures83 x 81 x 3.6

I would very much like to read any and all of your comments if you would be kind enough to take the time.

[MauroP]

Umetada, Myōchin or simply katchūshi?
 

[Spartancrest]

Roger have you checked this thread?  Your top guard is very similar in design - especially to one of mine but yours has that something extra with "Amida Yasuri" symbol of the Buddha's aura.

 

[MauroP]

no one really close...

[Kurikata]

Hi Roger,

 

Some similarities can be found with your second tsuba is Varshavsky collection:  https://varshavskycollection.com/collection/tsu-0410-2021/

 

It is described as signed by Nidai Nobuie with a lotus shape.

 

I hope it helps

[roger dundas]

Many thanks Dale, Mauro and Bruno- particularly for the other examples and posts that you put up.

Personally my research skills are fairly ordinary so thanks again for sharing yours .

Roger j

[roger dundas]

How about a third example of this sort of tsuba.

A big heavy Iron tsuba.......85 x 76 x 4.5 (I don't have a weight).

It was cheap ( $80 US back in mid 2019 ), I quite liked it and I added the two brass pillows (or rather, a friend did for me)- is that OK? The filed recesses were already there and either the original inserts had dropped out, were taken out or never were inserted ? 

Extravagantly sized rectangular hitsu and presumably later additions ?

Similar to the above and an old one you showed Dale ?

And my apologies for posting the first pic wrong way up.

Roger j

[Spartancrest]

Love the look of that one Roger - the new inserts should darken up with time, I can't see anything wrong putting back what was there 'originally' they were altered all the time in the past. Just my opinion.

[Spartancrest]

A nice Heianjo one with a sukashi mon - a little bit of both with some nice inlay as well. https://www.jauce.com/auction/e1055697146

[roger dundas]

I like that one Dale and with the yen dropping as it is, makes everything look better. 

It will be interesting to see the sale price.

Roger j