Papered Kawache no Kami Kunisuke by John M. Yumoto [1980]

[Bob Emery]

I don't know much of anything about Japanese swords but for years studied their culture.

I have picked up several that remain unread but would like some history on this one as it 

authenticated by  Mr. Yumoto

Thank You  

[Jacques D.]

I'm somewhat disapointed but this sword seems gimei. Please, have a look at the kanji Kuni which is the same for all generations 

 

https://www.aoijapan.com/katanakawachi-kami-kunisuke-2nd-generation-naka-kawachi/ 

[Bob Emery]

Is it a counterfiet; or made in the the period with a false signature?

I would greatly appreciate any info.

Regards

[Ray Singer]

As far as being authenticated by John Yumoto, what documentation went with this? There was a New Mexico shinsa he participated in around 1980 I believe, but please provide further details. 

[Brian]

8 hours ago, Bob Emery said:

Is it a counterfiet; or made in the the period with a false signature?

I would greatly appreciate any info.

Regards

Gimei (if it is gimei...not proven yet) is usually at the time of manufacture or a bit later in life. The sword remains real, old and genuine. It is only the signature that is spurious usually and there are many fine swords with gimei signatures.

[Jacques D.]

9 hours ago, Bob Emery said:

Is it a counterfiet; or made in the the period with a false signature?

I would greatly appreciate any info.

Regards

Impossible to say, it may have been made in all periods from the one of the living of the forged smith to ours. Many gimei were made just after the Haitorai and others called gendai gimei in 1934/35 because the sword became valuable as a collector's item and finally just after the war (1947/48). 

 

 

Brian,

we just have to prove that this signature is good all the oshigata in my possession show that the Kuni kanji (and there is not only that) is not engraved as it is on the nakago in question 

 

Some samples from Markus's shinto meikan below

[Bob Emery]

  I apologize for making an error in reading Mr. Yumotos' notations in evaluating the sword.

As to the signature he rates it bad, date: circa 1700 Shinto, made most likely by a smith of Osaka Shinto School.

I hope I haven't caused any confusion. 

[Jacques D.]

Here I am reassured, I could not imagine that John Yumoto could have made such a mistake.

[Bob Emery]

Even in his state of being i surely owe him an apologize.