Hizen Kuni Tadayoshi

[Lareon]

Hi guys,

 

Thought I'd share something I got fairly recently.

 

I picked it up in an auction with the mei mistranslated. 

 

I don't know if it's gimei or not. The hamon is mostly what seems to be choji gunome but starts on one side as suguha.

 

I know a large percentage of the Tadayoshi work is suguha but also that most of the gimei Tadayoshi are suguha too.

 

I don't know the generation or age.

 

It has very faint nie.

 

What are peoples opinion's on this one?

[paulb]

First impression is that it is gimei the hamon is also atypical. Can you let us have some dimensions? In the meantime I'll hit the reference books to double check the mei

[Lareon]

Cheers Paul

 

Nagasa is 61.6cm long. I'll get it out to measure more tomorrow and update.

 

[NewB]

Hello

 

See attached. The black and white photo is my Gojo Tadayoshi. Cheers

 

http://www.sho-shin.com/shinto-hizen.html

 

J

[paulb]

Just a point clearly illustrated by John's blade (which looks beautiful BTW) I have often talked about the wide "belt like nioiguchi seen on mainline Tadayoshi work and his is a clear example of this. I think it is a very good and clear indicator of mainline work.

[Curran]

Not to steal the purpose of the thread, but last night I decided to sell my Hizen Taikan.

Anyone reading this thread and interested should PM me.

 

Because of the size of the Tome of all things Hizen, it would be best if the buyer were in the USA.

Still, quite willing to ship abroad.   I live 500 ft from the central post office.

Not a hassle for me.

 

Curran

 

[Jacques]

10 hours ago, paulb said:

Just a point clearly illustrated by John's blade (which looks beautiful BTW) I have often talked about the wide "belt like nioiguchi seen on mainline Tadayoshi work and his is a clear example of this. I think it is a very good and clear indicator of mainline work.

 

Not true for the first part of his career but the last.

[Jacques]

20 hours ago, paulb said:

First impression is that it is gimei the hamon is also atypical. Can you let us have some dimensions? In the meantime I'll hit the reference books to double check the mei

 

Atypical hamon ? why please ?

[paulb]

Yes Jacque I agree the broad belt nioiguchi is a feature of his later work and those of his successors. His early work had much greater variation 

I said the hamon was atypical because I have not previously seen a hamon with the acute togari peaks seen on this blade. They look more mino than Hizen (to me)

[Lareon]

Measurements

 

Nagasa 61.6cm

Nakago 15.5cm

Kissaki 3cm

Yokote 1.5cm

Sori 2.5cm

 

A fair few tobiyaki

struggling to see the exact boshi shape

 

(P.s the sword isn't resting on the rug. It's on a sword pillow)

[NewB]

The fact that he was the most prolific smith of the Shinto era, I believe, was because he could work in many of the 'old' styles.

 

Older works did have midare with togari-ba and later his signature chu-suguha. I've seen some notare examples also and mine is a total Shizu utsushi! Needless to say - personally - my most favorite Shinto smith. As for your blade, my gut tells me gimei but I'm hoping I'm wrong. Cheers.

 

J.

[Jacques]

On 7/25/2022 at 8:26 PM, paulb said:

 

I said the hamon was atypical because I have not previously seen a hamon with the acute togari peaks seen on this blade. They look more mino than Hizen (to me)

 

look at this one

[Lareon]

Well thank you all for the comments and opinions! I will do some more reading and expanding my knowledge. I like the sword whether it is gimei or not.

 

Cheers all

[NewB]

That's what matters. Keep in mind there are few strokes that are missing in your signature however based on the Jacques example I'd say it looks pretty close - hamon and hada..

 

Cheers

 

J.