Could some please tell me what this mei says

[dirk marshall]

can someone tell me what the mei says?

[Markus]

Hello Dirk,

 

Although the third character on the right is nearly lost through the mekugi-ana,

my reading would be:

 

 

Kawabe Eihachirô Fujiwara Masahide no tame ni tsukuru (川部鋭八郎藤原正日出造之為)

"made for Kawabe Eichachirô Masahide"

 

Shôji Mino no Suke Fuji Naotane (荘司美濃介藤直胤)

the name of the swordsmith

 

[dirk marshall]

Marcus,

thanks a lot for you time and assistance.

I appreciate it

respectfully,

Dirk

[Nobody]

The mei seems to indicate a collaboration of Masahide and Naotane. However, I am not saying that the mei is genuine.

 

川部儀八郎藤原正日出造之 + Kao

Kawabe Gihachiro Masahide (= Suishinshi Masahide (水心子正秀)) made this.

 

荘司美濃介藤直胤 + Kao

Shoji Mino no suke Fuji Naotane

[John A Stuart]

Wasn't Naotane the student of Masahide? This makes for an interesting sword to try and assess which smith did what in its manufacture. John

[Mark]

before trying to figure out who did what you should try and determine if either had anything to do with the sword == not trying to be too negative but unless it has reliable papers i would work on the validity of the mei first

[reinhard]

For consideration:

Suishinshi MASAHIDE, famous founder of ShinShinTo movement and teacher of NAOTANE, died in 1826. Taikei NAOTANE was made "Mino no Suke" in 1848. If this mei is genuine, it is probably a later generation MASAHIDE involved here.

 

reinhard

[Jacques D.]

Hi,

 

If this mei is genuine, it is probably a later generation MASAHIDE involved here.

 

I don't think, nidai Masahide died the same year of his father, the sandai (son of Masatsugu) worked later of Naotane death.

[Brian]

I think Reinhard was being somewhat diplomatic

This is obviously gimei give the facts presented and the (un)likelyhood that these 2 smiths both worked on this piece.

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is with Nihonto.

 

Brian

[Brian]

Ah...I guess it helps when the seller tells you it is gimei too. :?

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?t=95468

 

Brian

[Chishiki]

Hi all, I believe the Fuji kanji in the Taikei mei is actually an amalgamation of Fuji and Wara into

one character,it is seen on works from Tempo 15 to Ansei 4 (1844-1857). Regards Mark