Gendaito on ebay

[jason y]

Any information about this smith?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0346052271

[James]

Nothing in Slough's but he must be a decent smith if the bidding is up to $2500 after just 12 hours of the sword being up on auction :?

[Chishiki]

I thought UK Ebay banned the sale of swords???? Is it that he posted it on the Us site? Mark

[pcfarrar]

The sale of swords is only banned on ebay UK. You can still list your swords on ebay US.

 

The sword in question is definitely not a true gendaito.

[David Flynn]

What makes you say this isn't a true Gendai?

[pcfarrar]

It's not made from Tamahagane. Some sort of hybrid construction.

[David Flynn]

Again, What makes you say that?

[pcfarrar]

Look at the jigane, its similar to the type you get from the wrought iron railway track. Then the hamon its dull and lifeless with no nie or activity.

[Guest nickn]

i owned a sword by the same smith and same to the same conclusion as peter

as with this sword there was no real hamon and the steel was very soft

[jason y]

I had this kanetada gunto, may be similar type of steel?

it really looked diffrent from other gendaitos that i have...

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3908&p=29526&hilit=kanetada#p29526

[SwordGuyJoe]

Questions about the blade aside, this is one of the best looking shin-gunto's I have seen. My only concern would be the leather saya cover. I haven't seen them with ties - maybe repro? Other than that it is BEAUTIFUL.

[b.hennick]

Does the hada look acid etched to you? It does to me. Some of the photos are in black and white rather than colour - to show different things I guess. The leather cover does look new or at least unused condition.

[drbvac]

I dotn think the hamon is acid etched, I think it is done with the polishing technique as in this pic the hamon is straight to the yokote and then disappears onto the boshi. The polishing to establish a hamon is not easy to do but it looks closer the that done by tempering than acid.

 

 

The second pic is a hamon made with hadori style polish that makes the hamon appear clearly but it is not there by quenching at least not where it appears to be.

 

 

 

2 cents - probably what my opinion tis worth too!

 

All said, very nice shin-gunto

[Amon]

The hada kind of reminds me of what you could see on Paul Chens higher end swords and I can't really see any hamon at all.

 

Regards

[bdgrange]

I am certainly glad I do not have this listed for sale.

Comments do influence what others think and do effect the sale price.

Someone once said it does not matter what others say as long as they

are talking about it.

A lot of work to list and the pics do a good job of representation of the subject.

It is interesting how we individually see things so differently.

Bill de

[Guest nickn]

so you think an item should not be discussed as it took a lot of work for the seller to list?

or as it might effect the price reached?

if an item is listed as gendiato and is not gendiato its completely valid to discuss whilst the auction is running it might stop a forum member making a big mistake

[Brian]

This is a touchy subject of course, and I don't like either option of a free-for-all talk about active auctions, or banning them totally. So we go the middle ground with the provision that people use common sense, don't make a habit of it, and don't discuss pricing.

Don't make me make a rule change here.

If you want to discuss a current auction, have a reason that is beyond just wanting to know if you should buy it. If there is obviously something wrong with it, a gentle pointer might help. Or showing something is not as described. But saying it "looks like a Paul Chen" when it obviously isn't, does not help much, and causes confusion.

If something isn't a Gendaito, then point it out, but you had better be sure if someone calls you on it. Same goes for most discussions. If you aren't sure, think twice before you make a statement. We do have the ability to influence many things here, and if that is abused then the rules will have to change.

Just a reminder again, and not a comment on this particular item.

 

Brian

[Amon]

I've never intended to make anyone confused and didn't either say that it looks like an Paul Chen only that it reminds.

Sorry if anyone got confused.

 

Regards

[David Flynn]

I have a sword by the same smith. The hamon is different, but the hada is the same type of O hada. I took this sword to the NTHK New York Shinsa in 2006, where it recieved a Kanteisho paper with a score of 75points, putting it in the top few swords of the Shinsa. Who ever buys this sword, I'm sure they will be happy.

And Yes, it is a true Gendaito.