My 2nd nbthk Blade

[zhangziyi777]

I got this from same guy in Japan shortly after the first one. Again, I'll post better hamon shot later on today.

[Ray Singer]

As with the previous sword you purchased. This is not an NBTHK kanteisho. it is a torokusho (sword registration paper). It does not provide any type of attribution, authentication of inscriptiona, etc that a kanteisho does. If this is all the sword was sold with, it is unpapered. 

 

Best regards, 

Ray 

[Ray Singer]

http://www.jssus.org/nkp/japanese_sword_laws.html

[Paz]

On 4/25/2022 at 11:53 AM, Ray Singer said:

http://www.jssus.org/nkp/japanese_sword_laws.html

Hey Ray out of curiosity why would a seller send these papers along with the sword to an international buyer,  when these papers are required within Japan ?  

 

I guess he had to apply for exportation which took 30 days aswell. 

 

Regards 

[Ray Singer]

Paz, the seller bypassed the formal process for some reason and simply mailed the sword out. I am guessing it was to save time & money, but that is not the legally required export process.

 

Best regards,

Ray

[Paz]

35 minutes ago, Ray Singer said:

Paz, the seller bypassed the formal process for some reason and simply mailed the sword out. I am guessing it was to save time & money, but that is not the legally required export process.

 

Best regards,

Ray

 

I can't actually beleive you can get away with that in a strict  import /export nation as Japan. 

 

And to @zhangziyi777these  are far from authentic papers. And the seller should never have said they were, if he did at all.

 

Regards 

[Baba Yaga]

9 hours ago, Paz said:

 

I can't actually beleive you can get away with that in a strict  import /export nation as Japan. 

 

 You'd be surprised how many of us receive antiques that way.   

[Bugyotsuji]

Actually it is not the registration certificate itself but a photograph of it that came with the blade. The flash reflection blocks out the Mei or Mumei.

 

International shipping is often pot-luck.

[WulinRuilong]

12 hours ago, Paz said:

I can't actually beleive you can get away with that in a strict  import /export nation as Japan. 

I know many sword dealers in Japan bypassed this process.

[zhangziyi777]

this is what the guy told me tht sold me the two swords from Japan,

"The sword I sell on the list is a "real Japanese sword".
Along with Katana's photo, a Japanese "sword sword registration certificate" is also posted.
This is a "sword sword registration certificate" issued only for real Japanese swords.
The Japanese sword with this certificate is a “real Japanese sword” approved by the Japanese government.
Only one serial number is assigned to each sword."

[WulinRuilong]

7 hours ago, zhangziyi777 said:

this is what the guy told me tht sold me the two swords from Japan,

"The sword I sell on the list is a "real Japanese sword".
Along with Katana's photo, a Japanese "sword sword registration certificate" is also posted.
This is a "sword sword registration certificate" issued only for real Japanese swords.
The Japanese sword with this certificate is a “real Japanese sword” approved by the Japanese government.
Only one serial number is assigned to each sword."

Sword registration paper is not nbthk paper. I am sorry you were fooled.

Hope you didn't spend too much

[jeremy]

Looks like they didn't lie , they said sword registration certificate not an appraisal certificate.  It may be confusing for someone who doesn't know which is which though. Does seem like a decent blade with a gold habaki even without a kanteisho.  It really comes down to how much you paid for it

[zhangziyi777]

46 minutes ago, jeremy said:

To be 100 percent honest, 699.99 with slow boat shipping. Thats in usd

 

[Brian]

He's correct. The certificate is a registration document that confirms it's a real Japanese sword.
Nothing more. Price was not terrible

[jeremy]

Decent price . I think you done well. 

[Edward Mahle]

On 5/1/2022 at 1:44 AM, zhangziyi777 said:

 

 For 699$ you made out really good.