Help with Mon

Jesper · March 21, 2009

Hi all,

I would greatly appriciate any help identifying the Mon on an Armour box. See photo.

Thanks in advance.

Jesper

Stephen · March 21, 2009

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Bungo · March 21, 2009

this is the i closest could come up with.

that happens to be my last name.

milt

Jesper · March 22, 2009

Thank you. Here is a part of an old label on the box. Does it help in any way?

Jesper

Nobody · March 22, 2009

Thank you. Here is a part of an old label on the box. Does it help in any way?

I suspect that it may be an old price tag. The number on the label is "51?", which could mean some value between 510 and 519 in JPY.

John A Stuart · March 22, 2009

That means "king", On-O, Kun-Kimi, Mandarin-Wang, Cantonese-Wong. Milt is Wong the same as Ong? Nevermind Milt. I see down in Singapore area it can be Ong or Heng. Your family must have moved north at some time. John

Stever · March 22, 2009

Hi John,

I believe those last two are Hokkien and Teochew dielects, FWIW.

cheers,

/steve

Jesper · March 23, 2009

Thank you. Here is a part of an old label on the box. Does it help in any way?

I suspect that it may be an old price tag. The number on the label is "51?", which could mean some value between 510 and 519 in JPY.

Thank you. I figured out the "5" kanji, but not the rest.

Jesper

IanB · March 30, 2009

Jesper, I have quite a pile of books on kamon and I'm afraid I cannot find the one on your gusoku bitsu in any of them. Yet another minor samurai family that has slipped through the net unrecorded I am sad to say.

Ian Bottomley

Guido · March 30, 2009

Jesper, I couldn't find this specific Kamon in my books either, but you won't go wrong describing it as "Kikkō ni Kakuji 亀甲に角字". The "frame" is called Kikkō 亀甲 (turtle shell), and the character is a so-called Kakuji 角字 (square character). If it's indeed the Kanji for king (Ō 王), then it's "Kikkō ni Ō no Kakuji 亀甲に王の角字", but that doesn't add much of substance anyhow.

Nobody · March 30, 2009

I have already checked Kakuji, but there was no similar character. O (王) in Kakuji style looks different. Refer to No. 23803 in the following table of Kakuji characters. That is O (王). See the attached picture.

Ref. http://www.asgy.co.jp/cgi-bin/kmnlist.pl?kakuji