Isidro Pastor Posted March 5, 2009 Report Posted March 5, 2009 Hi all, I have a doubt. One person has for sale this blade for about 800€, ($1000), I know that its impossible with two pictures,... but Do you think that this is a real nihonto? Thank you very much Isidro Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 Well its a modern blade (showato) from the looks of it... havent checked the writing yet on the nakago, anyone? Price is fair imho... KM Quote
GregD Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 From John Slough's book.NagaMura KiyoNobu Quote
Isidro Pastor Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Posted March 6, 2009 Ok, but in the nakago is the tipical "SAKU" not "KITAU". Does it mean the same? I think that the other kanji are the same. thank you very much again Quote
pcfarrar Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 Is this an oil-quenched one too? 100% oil quenched. Quote
Guest nickn Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 yes it is look at the hard spots (for want of a better word) in the hamons peaks Quote
Guest nickn Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 what would be the proper term for the hard/dead/bright spots you only see in oil quenched showato? Quote
Isidro Pastor Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Posted March 6, 2009 Hi all Sorry but i don´t know if i undertang very well the term "oil-quenched"... Do you all think that it is a bad blade with no value? Is it like WWII blades with aluminum tsuka and a serial number? It's a pity! Thank´s Quote
Guest nickn Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 its not a folded blade which has been water quenched in the traditional manner does it have value ? yes as a ww2 collectable $1000 ? not in my oppinion Quote
Brian Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 In today's current militaria market? If it has all the fittings, then $800-1000 is reachable. Would you want to spend that? That is up to you. You could spend $1K and have a sword worth $1K. But it wouldn't be traditionally made, and not "Nihonto" and just a WW2 sword. Is it as bad as the NCO ones? No. This would still have had a smith work on the steel etc. But not in the old tradition and nothing to learn from. So it's up to you. Brian Quote
Isidro Pastor Posted March 6, 2009 Author Report Posted March 6, 2009 Ok, No, i don´t Brian, Idon´t want to spend $1k in a no traditional Japanese sword. About Oil and Water quenched, do you see this in the "hamon" Would you mind teaching me how to differentiate oil and water quenched? For ex. Is it possible to see this differece in these? What about this? Oil or Water? (1000€) And this one? (1500€) Thank you very much again, you all are a very good help! Quote
Tavroch Posted March 6, 2009 Report Posted March 6, 2009 What I can see is fingerprints on a €1000 blade (top one). That in itself is not a good thing. Quote
Tavroch Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 I'm not picking on you Isidro, honest. Just flapping out the first things that come to my mind. I'm pretty new to this game as well and I thought I spotted an oil quenching just after I've been fantasizing about that in another post. Don't know about the two last blades. My guess: top one is oil quenched, bottom one maybe; looks a little soft around the edges despite the choji pattern. Hard to tell (for me) from these pictures. That is to say:this is what I think I see trying to etc. etc. you get my point. Soon more knowledgeable folk will hopefully come along and tell us what we're really seeing here. Quote
Isidro Pastor Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Posted March 7, 2009 Ok, Rob, no problem. I'm newer than you on this. Quote
Guest nickn Posted March 7, 2009 Report Posted March 7, 2009 top one oil quenched showato bottom obviously water quenched nihonto i suggest you buy some books Quote
Isidro Pastor Posted March 7, 2009 Author Report Posted March 7, 2009 Thank's Nickn I have 4 or 5 books in english but i can´t find anything about these differences. Can you tell me a book where i can read something about? Quote
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